Bootyologist Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 You don't really need adjustable rear lower control arms. It does help when you are trying to dial in your suspension understeer/oversteer/tire-roll/(fill in the blank) Rad. Thats what I thought. I'll be installing the eibachs on friday. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 You may get slightly more wear on the inside of the rear tires. Just keep an eye on it. Again, the downside is that you may end up fighting understeer. It is all a process. Your springs and shocks are your first hurdle. "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gforce13 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Any more information on the new konis Gteaser? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 Any more information on the new konis Gteaser? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sorry, been on vacation for the last few days and had a very busy week last week. Will try to get something up tonight. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 For those who want to see the difference when the spring perches are reversed, I have attached before and after Old New Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroVWGTi Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 i need new suspension... how is this going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySubieII Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161121/56411632df9eda0797937a2fe6a0ab89.jpg Ready for install and alignment! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 ^^^ On those rubber sleeves, the end with the lip goes up, and the lip gets inserted in the little slot right under the cap on the top of the Koni insert. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gforce13 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Ordered my front konis today. Very hard to find. Finally found some instock at Koni Market for a decent price. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootyologist Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 ^^^ On those rubber sleeves, the end with the lip goes up, and the lip gets inserted in the little slot right under the cap on the top of the Koni insert. crap, i have mine slid down as well. i bet i can get to them with the struts on the car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 crap, i have mine slid down as well. i bet i can get to them with the struts on the car... Since my car was the first set of Koni's I built, mine are actually slid down to the cut on the top of the strut tube too. LOL! And I have been driving like that for the last 3 years. The first set I built for someone else, I realized the correct orientation of the rubber sleeve and installed those correctly. It's probably going to be very difficult to get them to slide up into place with the springs and dust boots installed. I wouldn't be suprised if it was impossible. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySubieII Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 ^^^ On those rubber sleeves, the end with the lip goes up, and the lip gets inserted in the little slot right under the cap on the top of the Koni insert. Ahhhh. I see it now. Thanks. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySubieII Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 crap, i have mine slid down as well. i bet i can get to them with the struts on the car... In the cut-a-strut video they show them moving them down, but there is certainly a groove for it! Makes sense now that big look at it. Still covers the whole thing Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstik Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 is anyone running koni yellows w/ 13-14 springs? i want to upgrade my shocks but am not looking to go any lower on these frost heave infested roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I believe Brandon.mol is. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble Rumble Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Golferdude is too, installed them within the last month. 2012 Legacy 3.6R Build Thread 5th Gen Legacy BM/BR Body Kit Compendium Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 I believe Brandon.mol is. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk He's running Bilsteins with 13-14 springs. Several guys are running Konis with 13-14 springs. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) is anyone running koni yellows w/ 13-14 springs? i want to upgrade my shocks but am not looking to go any lower on these frost heave infested roads. I run 2014 springs with Koni's. Its an incredible combo. The car rides as good, if not better then with the 2011 strut/spring combo I had but handles like a sports sedan should. As for drop, see below 2011 Struts/Springs Koni Yellows/2014 Springs My current settings are 1/2 turn front, full soft rear. Honestly I don't need it any stiffer. Edited November 22, 2016 by Golferdude1087 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstik Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 sweet!! i'll probably just struggle thru winter with this setup but I'm going to buy the koni front inserts now ti make sure i get a pair before they all disappear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 sweet!! i'll probably just struggle thru winter with this setup but I'm going to buy the koni front inserts now ti make sure i get a pair before they all disappear Lets be fair, if theres plenty of snow you won't be able to use the koni's much over the stocks. You're going to slide around the turns anyway. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellesedil Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Lets be fair, if theres plenty of snow you won't be able to use the koni's much over the stocks. You're going to slide around the turns anyway. lol If you're not sideways, you're not having fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DugsSin Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 ^^^ AMEN ! http://www.carscoops.com/2016/11/haydon-paddon-performs-mother-of-all.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstik Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 ^^^ AMEN ! http://www.carscoops.com/2016/11/haydon-paddon-performs-mother-of-all.html that was damn near reverse entry, his car was at the angle of the exit about 80' before the freakin turn... #gymkhanaaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leighos Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 My Experience with the Koni and H&R combo...plus a lesson learned. This may be more relevant to you non-USA 5th Gen owners, and perhaps more about the springs rather than the Koni's, but what the hell I've posted mostly in this thread so its an update to all that have followed. So the Koni's are pure magic and I love them, the inserts were easy and everything about installing was straight forward. Many thanks to GTeaser for his info! My issues have been with the H&R springs, specifically the rear. Outside the USA you get one choice for the 5th Gen - part# 29167-2, advertised to be suited to both BM & BR. Immediately upon install I noticed a pronounced rear up rake which I did not like (just ask GTeaser!). Now the EE20 up front is slightly heavier than the EJ, so I expected a little nose down, but looking at every one else's photos the front gap is actually about the same. Fast forward 3000km, the rear settled more but still not level (or 8mm lower as per FSM) with the front and rake still very obvious. GTeaser and I came to the conclusion that due to BM & BR rear end weight difference, there is no 'one size fits all' regarding 29167-2, better suited to BR for sure. Since I was looking to realign camber at the rear, I bought some Hardrace LCA's that have additional hub mounting holes for even lower ride height, fixed the rake problem straight away and got my camber back too. Now for the lesson, after installing the springs in the first instance, I reset the bushes as I've done in every car I've ever lowered. But, since the drop was minimal I didn't think to reset again after the springs began to settle. They had been in tension nearly the whole time and effectively jacking the rear up! Man I feel stupid. After all this drama, the net result is my happiness right here.... http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161127/7aa33f45ec66877501bf844edef2c348.jpg Sent from my ZUK Z1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Leighos, what do you mean by reset the bushes? I am assuming bushings, but still don't know what resetting them means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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