GTEASER Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 It's not about money its about the performance So the Eibachs with spacers actually perform better than the OEM 2013+ springs? How do you know? GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cww516 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 They're progressive-rate, and from what I've seen, they start out around the same rate as the stockers, but stiffen up pretty quick after that. At least, that's what I'm hoping they'll do, but I'd have to actually install mine to tell you for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 So the Eibachs with spacers actually perform better than the OEM 2013+ springs? How do you know? Spacers don't change the dynamics of the spring they merely add height. So I have no reason to believe they won't be as good as the reviews here and nasioc (eibach pro kit for the impreza) say they are. I will take my chance with Eibach building a sportier better performing spring than Subaru's stock legacy one any day. Edit- and they are prettier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 Fair enough. I mentioned the spacers because with spacers you're not really getting the advantage of lowering the center of gravity with the Eibachs when you jack the body back up to stock height. You're not changing the dynamics of the spring, but you aren't changing the dynamics of the roll center, which can be perceived as "performance" with a lowering spring. In any case, the Koni's will be a huge improvement. You'll love your new car. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Center of gravity isn't the issue here, the floaty springs are. As long as that is resolved...mission accomplished! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBPeik Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 FWIW I am real happy with the Eibachs. They give a pretty comfy ride, but when you throw them into a turn they stiffen up good. I know they are a great compliment to the Bilsteins, I would assume the same would be true with the Koni's. Can't wait to hear how it works out. My someday I will be done with it thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble Rumble Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Tirerack order shipped! Guess that means they still have the fronts in stock for the time being. Now I just have to save up for the rears, the springs, and the KYB donors since my Legacy is my daily and I can't afford to have it down long enough to use the stocks as donors. 2012 Legacy 3.6R Build Thread 5th Gen Legacy BM/BR Body Kit Compendium Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon.mol Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 My car corners every bit as well with the '14 springs and Bilsteins as it dit with blacks and Bilsteins. A little more roll but it digs in and the Bils control the motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootyologist Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 My car corners every bit as well with the '14 springs and Bilsteins as it dit with blacks and Bilsteins. A little more roll but it digs in and the Bils control the motion. hows the ride quality compared to the bilsteins? much comfier? the bilsteins are pretty hard. for the the being, im going to use the rce black springs with the konis. i hope they arent too stiff. if so, ill swap them with '14s. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTone Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Tirerack order shipped! Guess that means they still have the fronts in stock for the time being. Now I just have to save up for the rears, the springs, and the KYB donors since my Legacy is my daily and I can't afford to have it down long enough to use the stocks as donors. You can do all four corners in a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 hows the ride quality compared to the bilsteins? much comfier? the bilsteins are pretty hard. for the the being, im going to use the rce black springs with the konis. i hope they arent too stiff. if so, ill swap them with '14s. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk I'm running RCE Blacks and Konis and they feel great! The adjustability of the konis allows you to set them as aggressively as you like My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble Rumble Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Wow these got here quick as hell. Like 40 hours from order to delivery? Definitely thumbs up for Tire Rack. http://i.imgur.com/DmV2oM4.jpg 2012 Legacy 3.6R Build Thread 5th Gen Legacy BM/BR Body Kit Compendium Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon.mol Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 hows the ride quality compared to the bilsteins? much comfier? the bilsteins are pretty hard. for the the being, im going to use the rce black springs with the konis. i hope they arent too stiff. if so, ill swap them with '14s. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Do you mean "compared to the RCE Blacks"? Paired with the Bils, its much better with '14 OEM springs. The Bils have VERY aggressive compression damping but (IMHO) have insufficient secondary/tertiary rebound damping for the Blacks so small slow compressions are bouncy/harsh because the compression motion is damped heavily but the rebound tosses it back up abruptly. Dips in the highway and wavey concrete freeways were a real beotch with the Blacks + Bils. The '14 springs completely fixed that. I'm willing to bet that Bilsteins would pair MUCH better with eibach springs than the blacks because of the lower initial spring rate. Also, I NEVER scrape or bottom out on anything now. Takes potholes like a CHAMP. That extra inch of travel gives the strut a lot more real-estate to get the job done. Because the bils have such aggressive compression damping, I can toss the car around and it doesn't dive at all - it just gradually rolls in, admittedly more than with the blacks but not a lot and its very linear and controlled... no abrupt diving of the front end. Virtually zero brake dive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootyologist Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I'm running RCE Blacks and Konis and they feel great! The adjustability of the konis allows you to set them as aggressively as you like is that combo bouncy over the smaller bumps? Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootyologist Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Do you mean "compared to the RCE Blacks"?. im an idiot, just reread your post and saw you went from bils n blacks to bils n 14s. not konis. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Edited September 16, 2016 by Bootyologist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 is that combo bouncy over the smaller bumps? Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk I have my setup dialed in a little more aggressively than what I started with, so I feel more of the road which is fine by me. I think initially I had the fronts at 1 full turn and the reals at 1/2 turn. After everything settled, I wanted a more planted feeling when hitting dips in the road, so I upped it to 1&1/4 turn in the front and 1 full turn in the back. My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DugsSin Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 My Home Depot & Lowes did not have the bolts I wanted so http://www.BelMetric.com to the rescue. The M12 with 1.5 thread pitch for pulling the inserts in was not to be found around me, so I also ordered new Flange bolts & nuts Grade 10.9 M12 x 1.75 x 80mm almost ran out of threads The Koni mounting point was not going to fit into the RSR LCA so a couple of passes with the grinder to narrow it was necessary. Looking forward to installing it all now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy.B Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 FWIW I am real happy with the Eibachs. They give a pretty comfy ride, but when you throw them into a turn they stiffen up good. I know they are a great compliment to the Bilsteins, I would assume the same would be true with the Koni's. Can't wait to hear how it works out. I think I may end up missing out on grabbing the Koni Inserts in time (won't be until late spring I think.) What's a good strut/shock pairing with the Eibachs. The OEM 2013's? Or do you have another suggestion. Timothy.B's 2011 LEGACY 3.6R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) I think I may end up missing out on grabbing the Koni Inserts in time (won't be until late spring I think.) What's a good strut/shock pairing with the Eibachs. The OEM 2013's? Or do you have another suggestion. Tim, They might be very scarce then but available The KYB are better then OEM Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk Edited September 23, 2016 by Golferdude1087 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I think I may end up missing out on grabbing the Koni Inserts in time (won't be until late spring I think.) What's a good strut/shock pairing with the Eibachs. The OEM 2013's? Or do you have another suggestion. You only have to buy the front Koni's inserts for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy.B Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I'd have to have them shipped to work so the girlfriend wouldn't see. Might end up having a Tim Tuesday instead of a Whit Wednesday at some point Timothy.B's 2011 LEGACY 3.6R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 The boxes are small bit long they may be able to hide in the trunk in the spare tire tray. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBPeik Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 ^^^Now there is a man that is thinking. Love it. My someday I will be done with it thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 Emnotek is out of front Koni inserts and checking with Koni to see if they can get any remaining stock. I suggest that everyone who wants Konis to buy the front inserts NOW for whatever price they have to from whatever source they can get them. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble Rumble Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Re-recommending TireRack for the Konis. I got my front pair from there for $328 total, free shipping. They arrived in about 2 days, no issues. Still say in stock as well. http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/suspension.jsp?gclid=Cj0KEQjwmri_BRCZpaHkuIH75_IBEiQAIG0rITYlI15YYqyAVqcWrIN0nVfuaElImI7Zf39YHQ_volgaAsXc8P8HAQ&make=Koni&model=Sport+Cartridge&partnum=8610-1453SPORT&GCID=C13674x012-suspension&KEYWORD=suspension_Koni_Sport_Cartridge&code=yes&group=Sport&autoMake=Subaru&autoModel=Impreza+5-Door&autoYear=2010&autoModClar=2.5GT&checkVehicle=&src=17540115&ci_sku=8610-1453SPORT&ci_sku=8610-1453SPORT&ci_src=17588969&ef_id=V9rPqgAABPF@MNcy:20160930165124:s 2012 Legacy 3.6R Build Thread 5th Gen Legacy BM/BR Body Kit Compendium Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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