Ellesedil Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 9 days? Is that the official release of info or are we just hoping? He's hoping that the New York Auto Show, which is in 9 days, will have some information about the 2.0 DIT for the US market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXR4T Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 He's hoping that the New York Auto Show, which is in 9 days, will have some information about the 2.0 DIT for the US market. And those 9 days can't seem to come any faster.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboLag23 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I am of course crossing my fingers for a 2.0 DIT Legacy debut at the NYIAS in 9 days. That would actually make me so happy. And a return of the LGT wagon Almost positive that the new WRX will be announced there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Almost positive that the new WRX will be announced there too. I would be surprised if they announced it so early. The 2014 WRX/STi continuing with the current body style, 2015 is now the expect redesign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilCamaroSS Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Does anyone know when they are actually planning on releasing the new Legacy? Even if it has minor changes? They released the 2013 Legacy last year at the NYIAS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaijubei Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 If you're looking for DIT in the USDM in 2014, then you should look closer at the 2014 forester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboLag23 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I would be surprised if they announced it so early. The 2014 WRX/STi continuing with the current body style, 2015 is now the expect redesign. Why in the hell are they continuing on with the older body style like that though?! Makes next to no sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I would be surprised if they announced it so early. The 2014 WRX/STi continuing with the current body style, 2015 is now the expect redesign. They are showing a "performance model" concept at the show. Most likely showing what the new 2 door WRX will look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilCamaroSS Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 If you're looking for DIT in the USDM in 2014, then you should look closer at the 2014 forester. eh, they could easily replace the 3.6R with a 2.0DIT. It's bound to bite the dust soon anyway, maybe that is why they ended the LGT a year early so they could fit the 2.0 DIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perscitus Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I sure hope so! We want 2.0DITs in Imprezas and Legacies!!! The 3.6R won't cut emissions and MPG ratings going forward. Same thing for the defunct 2.5GT. Besides, Subaru has decided to sell almost everything with CVTs (we'll start seeing them in all Impreza/Legacies too soon enough) and with more and more Hybrid models coming down the pipeline in years to come. No ULH, few Turbo or performance oriented models, no manuals, more RWD (maybe some FWD too!). Its what makes a Subaru.... a Subaru. ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 No ULH, few Turbo or performance oriented models, no manuals, more RWD (maybe some FWD too!). Its what makes a Subaru.... a Subaru. ugh What you can do is to blame the fuel consumption regulations. However this will also create a market for aftermarket tuning kits with turbo conversions. I suspect that one reason for first offering the DIT in the Forester is that the people driving Foresters are not pushing the machinery to the same extent and that they want to get some miles on that engine before placing it into other vehicles. Add to it the fact that the economy is pretty slow and nervous, so I suspect we are going to see a few years of economy models from many brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higuma Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I suspect that one reason for first offering the DIT in the Forester is that the people driving Foresters are not pushing the machinery to the same extent and that they want to get some miles on that engine before placing it into other vehicles. Production DATA from Subaru Japan - from August > October 2012 shows... Amongst Legacy Touring Wagons & B4's & Outback ( even though the OBT doesn't have a DIT option ) ~ 32.53% of all Legacy models produced during that period have 2.0 DIT engines ( FA20 DIT CVT )... ~ while only .84% produced where 2.5 GT ( EJ25 5EAT )... ~ leaving the remaining 66.73% for the 2.5i models ( FB20 ) NOTE: Manual transmissions are NOT available in any Legacy model in Japan at present - - writing on the wall... That puts 1,684 DIT's on the road just during that 3 months - which was 2 months before the Forester XT with DIT was announced... So I don't think that the Forester with DIT is some sort of "BETA" model to test the DIT... We are already in full fledged adoption mode over here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Production DATA from Subaru Japan - from August > October 2012 shows... Amongst Legacy Touring Wagons & B4's & Outback ( even though the OBT doesn't have a DIT option ) ~ 32.53% of all Legacy models produced during that period have 2.0 DIT engines ( FA20 DIT CVT )... ~ while only .84% produced where 2.5 GT ( EJ25 5EAT )... ~ leaving the remaining 66.73% for the 2.5i models ( FB20 ) NOTE: Manual transmissions are NOT available in any Legacy model in Japan at present - - writing on the wall... That puts 1,684 DIT's on the road just during that 3 months - which was 2 months before the Forester XT with DIT was announced... So I don't think that the Forester with DIT is some sort of "BETA" model to test the DIT... We are already in full fledged adoption mode over here... The remaining 66.73 should be a mix of 2.5i, 2.0i and 2.0D if it's the production numbers for all the vehicles you did get. And as far as I know the EJ25 is going out of production, which explains the lower figures - the DIT is the replacement as I understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 NOTE: Manual transmissions are NOT available in any Legacy model in Japan at present - - writing on the wall I don't like that writing at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Just because it doesn't happen in one country, doesn't mean it won't happen here. Europe doesn't get a manual M5 or M6 but the US does. GB doesn't even get any Impreza anymore, but we do. If there's enough interest, it will be available. Write SOA a letter. And if they do bring it over, you better pony up or that would be the last time they try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runnerodb83 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 the parking brake in the center console may not happen in the states, nor the burnished bronze color...since its likely that all those Legacy's are made in japan and not Lafayette. I do hope the MFD in the dash on the limited gets some more useful info, seems mostly eye candy. The MFD in the forester is pretty nice, has similar info to a prius, a lot of gimmicky but nice 'central info hub' for the vehicle as shown on joe spitz's page http://www.cars101.com/subaru/forester/forester2014photos2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higuma Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 The remaining 66.73 should be a mix of 2.5i, 2.0i and 2.0D if it's the production numbers for all the vehicles you did get. And as far as I know the EJ25 is going out of production, which explains the lower figures - the DIT is the replacement as I understand it. As I stated the numbers I quoted are for JDM production during that 3 month period... FYI... 1 - There are no 2.0i or 2.0D in the Japanese Domestic Market ( JDM ) so the above quoted production numbers are published as fact.... 66.73% are FB20 N/A motors... 2 - The EJ25 is NOT out of production in Japan - it is still a option being offered as we speak - - All current model year 2.5GT Legacy models are EJ25 (but 5EAT )... If I went down to my local dealer I could order one this morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higuma Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I went back further to check on the first quarter production numbers of the 2.0GT DIT and found that there were a further 1,579 produced - bringing the total ( from first production to October 2012 or 6 months ) to 3,263 DIT's out there roaming around Japan.... Of interest only 880 of those DIT's produced were B4 ( sedans ) leaving 2,603 Touring Wagon DIT's - - the overwhelmingly popular model in the JDM... The new stats should have come out yesterday 26th but I have not had a chance to see them yet... I will report when I see them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 As I stated the numbers I quoted are for JDM production during that 3 month period... FYI... 1 - There are no 2.0i or 2.0D in the Japanese Domestic Market ( JDM ) so the above quoted production numbers are published as fact.... 66.73% are FB20 N/A motors... 2 - The EJ25 is NOT out of production in Japan - it is still a option being offered as we speak - - All current model year 2.5GT Legacy models are EJ25 (but 5EAT )... If I went down to my local dealer I could order one this morning... Cars produced in Japan are not only for the domestic market but also for Europe and Australia. And you didn't specify that they were only for the domestic market, which means that the actual numbers for cars made in Japan should be higher. The markets and consumer rights processes are different when it comes to Japan, US and Europe. So that means that if there is a problem with a certain model it can kill the sales in Europe and the US completely. Car buyers in both the US and Europe are a pretty conservative bunch too, many prefer tried technology when buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanAntonioLGT Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Even BUICK is offering a 2.0T AWD with a 6 speed manual for 2014. You would think Subaru would see a need to keep the turbo plus the manual trans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Even BUICK is offering a 2.0T AWD with a 6 speed manual for 2014. You would think Subaru would see a need to keep the turbo plus the manual trans. No it isn't. The awd Regal will only be available with an auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilCamaroSS Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Booo for the NYIAS. I am still no closer to knowing if I should buy a 2013 WRX or try to wait out and see if a 2014 Legacy / WRX will come with what I am looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanAntonioLGT Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 No it isn't. The awd Regal will only be available with an auto. I stand corrected, not awd, but they offer a turbo with a 6speed something Subaru does not...as of yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaijubei Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Subaru doesn't offer a 6 speed turbo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenzo Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I stand corrected, not awd, but they offer a turbo with a 6speed something Subaru does not...as of yet. Keep standing - the STi has had a turbo and a six-speed for several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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