EvilCamaroSS Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Keep standing - the STi has had a turbo and a six-speed for several years. Have you driven a STi? It's not a car that is fun to drive daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenzo Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Have you driven a STi? It's not a car that is fun to drive daily. I owned one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Have you driven a STi? It's not a car that is fun to drive daily. I drive one daily and I would definitely say it's fun to drive daily. Maybe not pre 2008, but GR is definitely DD worthy. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilCamaroSS Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I drive one daily and I would definitely say it's fun to drive daily. Maybe not pre 2008, but GR is definitely DD worthy. I have to disagree. If your doing a lot of stop and go, that car is horrible, and the turbo lag makes it even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I have to disagree. If your doing a lot of stop and go, that car is horrible, and the turbo lag makes it even worse. What? BS. The STI has less turbo lag than any turbo subaru offers or offered except for the BM GT. I have stop and go heading to and leaving work everyday. Clutch pick up is better than the BM GT and other than that, it's no more difficult to drive in traffic than the BL GT or GR WRX. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilCamaroSS Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 What? BS. The STI has less turbo lag than any turbo subaru offers or offered except for the BM GT. I have stop and go heading to and leaving work everyday. Clutch pick up is better than the BM GT and other than that, it's no more difficult to drive in traffic than the BL GT or GR WRX. Maybe there was somehting wrong with the STi I test drove, but the 13' WRX had significantly less turbo lag, was significantly quieter, and was significantly more comfortable, while delivering almost equal performance, All things that appeal to most normal people in a daily driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItnStln Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I sure hope so! We want 2.0DITs in Imprezas and Legacies!!! The 3.6R won't cut emissions and MPG ratings going forward. Same thing for the defunct 2.5GT. Besides, Subaru has decided to sell almost everything with CVTs (we'll start seeing them in all Impreza/Legacies too soon enough) and with more and more Hybrid models coming down the pipeline in years to come. No ULH, few Turbo or performance oriented models, no manuals, more RWD (maybe some FWD too!). Its what makes a Subaru.... a Subaru. ugh What's the DIT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Maybe there was somehting wrong with the STi I test drove, but the 13' WRX had significantly less turbo lag, was significantly quieter, and was significantly more comfortable, while delivering almost equal performance, All things that appeal to most normal people in a daily driver. The 13 WRX is quieter, has more turbo lag, and is softer. The rear suspension on the +08 STI is more forgiving than the BL Legacy. It doesn't thud and crash over bumps. On the street, the WRX offers most of the performance of the STI with none of the feel. Even then It rolls a lot more, brakes fade a lot quicker, it doesn't accelerate as fast while moving, The steering isn't as direct or as quick, it understeers a lot more... that being said. MY STI has been a perfect daily driver. There are some features I miss when I drive the wife's car, but when I do, I miss the STI's performance. At no point do I feel like I'm settling or living with the STI day to day. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschmelcke Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 What's the DIT? Direct injection turbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilCamaroSS Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 The 13 WRX is quieter, has more turbo lag, and is softer. The rear suspension on the +08 STI is more forgiving than the BL Legacy. It doesn't thud and crash over bumps. On the street, the WRX offers most of the performance of the STI with none of the feel. Even then It rolls a lot more, brakes fade a lot quicker, it doesn't accelerate as fast while moving, The steering isn't as direct or as quick, it understeers a lot more... that being said. MY STI has been a perfect daily driver. There are some features I miss when I drive the wife's car, but when I do, I miss the STI's performance. At no point do I feel like I'm settling or living with the STI day to day. There is 0% chance that the WRX has more lag than the STi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 There is 0% chance that the WRX has more lag than the STi. That statement makes it obvious you have no appreciable time comparing the two. The ONLY things that might lead you to say that would be the throttle response of a used WRX vs a new STI or an STI running in I or S modes. Apples to apples, the WRX definitely has more lag. And the STI has less turbo lag than a stock BL any day of the week. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanAntonioLGT Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Keep standing - the STi has had a turbo and a six-speed for several years. Talking about the Legacy...we all know about the WRX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenzo Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Talking about the Legacy...we all know about the WRX. It is sad that the Legacy no longer has a turbo/6MT option - I'm keeping mine until it dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 Sooooooooo, 2014 will have 4 doors, no turbo, and AWD? Alright! SCORE! Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubOperator Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Be grateful ^^^^. At least this thread made it over 100 posts!!! Half of those were about WRX but still! ) 2005 LGT Wagon Limited 6 MT RBP Stage 2 - 248K 2007 B9 Tribeca Limited DGM - 258K SOLD - 2005 OB Limited 5 MT Silver - 245K SOLD - 2010 OB 6 MT Silver - 205K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 I am only grateful for my 2005 so far. I reaaaaallly want to come back to Subaru when it's time in 2014, this thread just soothes my persistent need to get B4's attention. Once the 6th Gen gets closer you'll really see my light this place up. Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilCamaroSS Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Looks like orders will start on 5/1 for the 2014 Legacy. http://www.donlen.com/buildstart-subaru.aspx Still hoping for a 2.0DIT model, I mean if Japan added a 2.0DIT model with no major re-design, why can't the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItnStln Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Direct injection turbo Okay, thanks...I was thinking diesel injected turbo for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItnStln Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 It is sad that the Legacy no longer has a turbo/6MT option - I'm keeping mine until it dies. That is sad. I've been wanting a GT for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabe23 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Looks like orders will start on 5/1 for the 2014 Legacy. http://www.donlen.com/buildstart-subaru.aspx Still hoping for a 2.0DIT model, I mean if Japan added a 2.0DIT model with no major re-design, why can't the US? Good find. I also wonder if there will be any changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andnyleswillriot Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Looks like orders will start on 5/1 for the 2014 Legacy. http://www.donlen.com/buildstart-subaru.aspx Still hoping for a 2.0DIT model, I mean if Japan added a 2.0DIT model with no major re-design, why can't the US? seriously. why does the forester need a DIT model but the legacy doesn't? makes absolutely no sense to me, just give the forester a 3.6L H6 and put the DIT into a legacy. People who will want a faster forester probably couldn't give 2 shits about a turbo over an H6 whereas there is still a real enthusiast market for a turbo legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenzo Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 That is sad. I've been wanting a GT for a while. It's super sad when a sedan with AWD, 6MT, a turbo four and an interior that actually looks modern is offered by Buick and not Subaru: http://www.buick.com/2014-regal-luxury-sport-sedan.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I don't think you can get a stick with AWD on the Regal. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Even BUICK is offering a 2.0T AWD with a 6 speed manual for 2014. You would think Subaru would see a need to keep the turbo plus the manual trans. No it isn't. The awd Regal will only be available with an auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 And on top of that, the rear seat room in the Regal is worse than that of my BL GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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