Hybrid22L Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Just becareful of your valvebody. Some guys on nasioc have had the level 10 valvebody give out and destroyed their tranny. Do a search on nasioc and you will find out what i am talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g00fy Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 wow, wish i'd known about that before i dropped 5g's on one of their transmissions... really i was initially looking at IPT, but i found a sweet deal on a 01' forester transmission fully built by Level 10. It belonged to a guy who was gonna slap it in this 800hp wrx, but the project fell through so he sold the trans to another guy who couldn't fit the thing in his WRX, and he sold it to me for $1600 never used. So i couldn't pass that up, i called level 10 they said it would fit so i bought it. I brought it to them they told me it was different but they'd make it work. After a few days, they call me and tell me they couldn't make it work so they just did a full stage 3 rebuild on my original transmission, gave me a $2300 credit for the trans i had bought off nasioc, then directly charged me the difference in price. (Note: they just did this, they didn't ask me first) So i went along with it cause they gave me $2300 for it which is more then i probly could've gotten for it, but if i had a choice i would've gone with IPT, and now i'm beginning to worry and wish i had... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid22L Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 That was a sweet deal on the trans. What you can do is send the valve body to IPT to make sure everything is ok with it. Everything else that Level 10 does is ok, except for their valve body. i really woudn't worry about it too much. What is your stall speed? wow, wish i'd known about that before i dropped 5g's on one of their transmissions... really i was initially looking at IPT, but i found a sweet deal on a 01' forester transmission fully built by Level 10. It belonged to a guy who was gonna slap it in this 800hp wrx, but the project fell through so he sold the trans to another guy who couldn't fit the thing in his WRX, and he sold it to me for $1600 never used. So i couldn't pass that up, i called level 10 they said it would fit so i bought it. I brought it to them they told me it was different but they'd make it work. After a few days, they call me and tell me they couldn't make it work so they just did a full stage 3 rebuild on my original transmission, gave me a $2300 credit for the trans i had bought off nasioc, then directly charged me the difference in price. (Note: they just did this, they didn't ask me first) So i went along with it cause they gave me $2300 for it which is more then i probly could've gotten for it, but if i had a choice i would've gone with IPT, and now i'm beginning to worry and wish i had... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTGT Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 i'm using the defi blue racer series. make sur eit goes up to 3oo degrees. Once it's past 220, then you better back off the tranny. it's going to start breaking at that point. harman actually just taped the drain plug on the tranny and installed the temperature sender their. So was this dedicated tranny temp gauge made by defi, or just an oil gauge that went up to 300 degrees? Also is everything included with the guage that you need? I know defi is pretty expensive anything else cheaper out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid22L Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 it's an oil temp gauge rigged up as a temp gauge. You do have to buy some additional parts. i believe subaru sells a part thet replaces the tranny drain plug and it has a opening that you can screw in the sender. i don;t know the part number because harman did the work. So was this dedicated tranny temp gauge made by defi, or just an oil gauge that went up to 300 degrees? Also is everything included with the guage that you need? I know defi is pretty expensive anything else cheaper out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g00fy Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 That was a sweet deal on the trans. What you can do is send the valve body to IPT to make sure everything is ok with it. Everything else that Level 10 does is ok, except for their valve body. i really woudn't worry about it too much. What is your stall speed? My Stall is set at a loose 3500, which is nice. I took your advice and searched nasioc and i see what you mean about the problems people had with lvl 10, so i called up IPT to get some input on what to do about my situation. I talked to the jon that's nick named "ty" and he basically told me that there's no point bringin it to them to get any work now, because i could get lucky and not have any problems, so i'll see what happens. So far except for a minor leak, that i had to take it back to them twice for before it got fixed, the trans has been nice. Shifts pretty nicely and the stall converter is a blast... Level 10 warrentied the transmission for 6 months, so i guess if i have any issues before the 6 months are up i'm gonna keep goin back to level 10 for free repairs, but if i have any problems after those 6 months i'm goin straight to ITP to have the damage asessed. So i've got my fingers crossed i'm struggling to live in order to pay off a time-bomb of a transmission... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSoCalledJohn Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Wow... this is quite a thread! I had my "AT OIL TEMP" light go on a couple times at the track day last Sat, so I'm definately thinking about getting that transmission cooler. Anybody know at what temperature the AT temp light comes on? Also, my "vacation pix" don't seem to have a section on the 5EAT. Is it missing or what?? In the "transmission and driveshafts" folder all I have is Clutch Differentials Driveshafts Manual Trans & Differential Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC) WTF??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005garnetGT Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 your AT OIL TEMP light came on, multiple times, and you kept beating on it!???! prepare to rebuild your trans soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005garnetGT Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 My Stall is set at a loose 3500, which is nice. I took your advice and searched nasioc and i see what you mean about the problems people had with lvl 10, so i called up IPT to get some input on what to do about my situation. I talked to the jon that's nick named "ty" and he basically told me that there's no point bringin it to them to get any work now, because i could get lucky and not have any problems, so i'll see what happens. So far except for a minor leak, that i had to take it back to them twice for before it got fixed, the trans has been nice. Shifts pretty nicely and the stall converter is a blast... Level 10 warrentied the transmission for 6 months, so i guess if i have any issues before the 6 months are up i'm gonna keep goin back to level 10 for free repairs, but if i have any problems after those 6 months i'm goin straight to ITP to have the damage asessed. So i've got my fingers crossed i'm struggling to live in order to pay off a time-bomb of a transmission... you know stock stall according to subaru is between 3100-3500, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSoCalledJohn Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Well... It came on once at the end of the fourth session, I pulled in and let it cool down and then it came on again at the end of the fifth... It was only on for a minute or so each time. It's not like I could just skip the last session or something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKLGT Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 well i spoke to IPT today and i should receive my valve bodies back tomorrow sometime in the afternoon most likely. Wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle yeah!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyglock Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 UPS picked up your VB this afternoon. I was there. well i spoke to IPT today and i should receive my valve bodies back tomorrow sometime in the afternoon most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005garnetGT Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 cool, let us know how it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Power Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 So was this dedicated tranny temp gauge made by defi, or just an oil gauge that went up to 300 degrees? Also is everything included with the guage that you need? I know defi is pretty expensive anything else cheaper out there. Yes, I used prosport. I tapped in to the line where the rubber meets the metal on the driver side underneath. I used a T fitting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g00fy Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 you know stock stall according to subaru is between 3100-3500, right? That's false, at least on the forester, cause i couldn't power brake the car over 2100 - 2200 before i had the trans upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKLGT Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 UPS picked up your VB this afternoon. I was there. sweet! i can't wait to get my car back up and running! Wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle yeah!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005garnetGT Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 That's false, at least on the forester, cause i couldn't power brake the car over 2100 - 2200 before i had the trans upgrade first off, they have a completely different trans. second off, I'm quoting the FSM for the legacy, and unless you know more about the 5EAT then subaru does, I think I'll stick with what the FSM says. when did I ever mention a forester? edit: changed quote location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid22L Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Baby your car. Your trans might be on the way to being toast. If the light goes off, i bet you hit above 250. Above 220 and your trans starts to fail. Wow... this is quite a thread! I had my "AT OIL TEMP" light go on a couple times at the track day last Sat, so I'm definately thinking about getting that transmission cooler. Anybody know at what temperature the AT temp light comes on? Also, my "vacation pix" don't seem to have a section on the 5EAT. Is it missing or what?? In the "transmission and driveshafts" folder all I have is Clutch Differentials Driveshafts Manual Trans & Differential Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC) WTF??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostsr20 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Baby your car. Your trans might be on the way to being toast. If the light goes off, i bet you hit above 250. Above 220 and your trans starts to fail. Guys, its not like his trans is going to fall out the bottom of his car now. Yes, the light is a bad sign but those temps don't instantly kill tranny's and subaru set it a certain temp to *warn* you that its not good. That wanring light doesn't mean you need to turn around and pick your tranny up off the ground. Higher temps break down the seals faster and increase wear and tear, but he'll still be fine for a while yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g00fy Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 first off, they have a completely different trans. second off, I'm quoting the FSM for the legacy, and unless you know more about the 5EAT then subaru does, I think I'll stick with what the FSM says. when did I ever mention a forester? edit: changed quote location. Hey man don't get upset, you posted in direct response to my info on my transmission, and you gave me facts about a legacy not a forester, and nowhere in my post did i say i had a legacy so i assumed you were trying to tell me the forester had a 3500 stall. And i said that that was false for the forester so relax i thought you were talkin about my forester not a legacy, had you specified that the Legacy had a stall of 3500 i would've said "oh really, i wish i had gotten a legacy in the first place then". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dv8ingvector Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Hey man don't get pissed off, you posted in direct response to my info on my transmission, and you gave me facts about a legacy not a forester, and nowhere in my post did i say i had a legacy so i assumed you were trying to tell me the forester had a 3500 stall. And i said that that was false for the forester so relax". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005garnetGT Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Hey man don't get upset, you posted in direct response to my info on my transmission, and you gave me facts about a legacy not a forester, and nowhere in my post did i say i had a legacy so i assumed you were trying to tell me the forester had a 3500 stall. And i said that that was false for the forester so relax i thought you were talkin about my forester not a legacy, had you specified that the Legacy had a stall of 3500 i would've said "oh really, i wish i had gotten a legacy in the first place then". why would you think I was referring to anything other then a legacy when I am posting on a legacy specific forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g00fy Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 why would you think I was referring to anything other then a legacy when I am posting on a legacy specific forum? Idk i figured we're all Subaru fans so it wouldn't be that big a deal if i talked about my forester. Also the way you worded the post i actually thought you were referring to all Subaru's, that's why i said i disagreed, at least about the forester. But it was a miscommunication, and it happens, and I'm sorry if i came off sounding like a douche in the first place. Hey at least I'm not in the legacy forums posting about an S4 or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skillz Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 it's an oil temp gauge rigged up as a temp gauge. You do have to buy some additional parts. i believe subaru sells a part thet replaces the tranny drain plug and it has a opening that you can screw in the sender. i don;t know the part number because harman did the work. Does anyone know the part #? It sounds like all you have to do is screw the sender into the new drain plug and screw the plug back in. Is it really that easy? What about tapping into the line exiting a tranny cooler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKLGT Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 my IPT upgraded Valve Bodies arrived today. hopefully we get them installed tomorrow or by Saturday! Wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle yeah!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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