Nonamedude Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Yea I'd looked them up real quick and used their us retail for the triple number. I thought the oe subaru ones were supposed to be superior to Fram. I must have gotten that confused somewhere. I'll have to look up some disassembly videos. I don't mind spending more on a better set up. I just could swear I kept reading the oe filters were the best to use. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Apparently I misunderstood peoples assertions on why to use the oem ones. Was just trying to parse through some stuff on bitog and glazed over and started skipping large sections. I'll have to come back to it. But yes oe blue filters are fram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottFW Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Last I heard, the OE blue oil filters (which have had various sources over the years OEM'ing them for Subaru) had a lower bypass psi than our cars were originally designed for. The OE filter you want is the Tokyo Roki manufactured version you can buy at Mazda dealers, for an RX-8, part no. N3R1-14-302. They're about $7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Last I heard, the OE blue oil filters (which have had various sources over the years OEM'ing them for Subaru) had a lower bypass psi than our cars were originally designed for. The OE filter you want is the Tokyo Roki manufactured version you can buy at Mazda dealers, for an RX-8, part no. N3R1-14-302. They're about $7. Supposedly the blue filters have a bypass of 23psi. Which from everything I've read is extremely high compared to most vehicles. I can't find specs on the Mazda ones. Don't want to turn this into an oil thread though cuz I don't think this is the place for that debate. Also I'm a little fried trying to read all the oil info. Again. I think for the 4th or 5th time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awfulwaffle Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Wait you're supposed to use an oil filter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Wait you're supposed to use an oil filter? Yes...if you don't want to change that, you could just wipe down the outside so it looks new...you would be saving money doing that too, as well as cutting down in metal waste. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTurbo Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I love getting folks riled up over my insistence that I change the oil when it starts looking dirty! Time to start changing the filter halfway through the OCI... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubOperator Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Yes...if you don't want to change that, you could just wipe down the outside so it looks new...you would be saving money doing that too, as well as cutting down in metal waste. Damn, where were you 12 years ago? So much time and money wasted changing those filters. On serious note, I am still on Toyo-Roki filters, albeit my stash is dwindling and I will have to look into getting myself some Mazda filters. Never tried Amsoil though, is it worth the price? 2005 LGT Wagon Limited 6 MT RBP Stage 2 - 248K 2007 B9 Tribeca Limited DGM - 258K SOLD - 2005 OB Limited 5 MT Silver - 245K SOLD - 2010 OB 6 MT Silver - 205K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Damn, where were you 12 years ago? So much time and money wasted changing those filters. On serious note, I am still on Toyo-Roki filters, albeit my stash is dwindling and I will have to look into getting myself some Mazda filters. Never tried Amsoil though, is it worth the price? It seems that most things from amsoil are well liked. There's something with size and filter media psid blah blah blah and the only specs published on the amsoil I found show their psi bypass at 11-17 not the Subaru 23ish. But they probably are honestly better. It's hard to find proper info on comparisons. I've spent most of the day looking. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I'd say yes to Amsoil being worth the price. Join as a preferred member, the prices drop. There may even be someone on this Forum that happens to be a Dealer...that may be through PM's could get you what you need... ? Remember to have Blackstone Labs do a oil sample before you go for long OCI. When I sent in the sample at 7000 miles they told me to leave the oil in till 9000 miles and send in another sample. I have always changed at 7000-8000 miles. That's good enough for me. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amptramp Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 There are a number of YouTube videos where filters are cut open and the differences in construction are obvious. On the Miata, I use NAPA / Wix Gold which has an unusual bypass valve structure - it is located under the filter element right next to the gasket surface end. The advantage? When the bypass opens, it does not wash dirt off the outside of the filter element as it would with the bypass at the other end of the filter. Some filter differences are subtle, some are blatant. We have an oil thread but not a filter thread, so if there is continued interest, maybe someone should start one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow05gtRI Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) I get people wanting to use youtube "cut open" videos for assessment of filters, but your eyes can't see filtration down to the micron level. One that might look "light" might just be more efficiently packed. Or the "better" one being over packed. Edited November 8, 2019 by snow05gtRI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Well I might be able to do micron filtration levels at work in some way. I do material testing for a chemical lab. We have all sorts of equipment and regularly work on the sub 5 micron scale. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow05gtRI Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Well I might be able to do micron filtration levels at work in some way. I do material testing for a chemical lab. We have all sorts of equipment and regularly work on the sub 5 micron scale. I'm sure we'd all appreciate any testing you can do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I'm sure we'd all appreciate any testing you can do! Well I have the tools haha not the knowledge. I can take really detailed pictures, I wouldn't really know what to test. I guess uhhh flow rates and filtering capabilities? One of the engineers has a wrx. Maybe I'll go harass him. He might have ideas and know what to do. I'll start up a separate thread for ideas. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkey Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I did it... I made an oil filter thread. Link: https://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/oil-filter-discussion-thread-280949.html?p=5929588#post5929588 05' LGT, ZFD Built 5MT, Stage 2 Cryotune 91/E85, 170,000mi running BRotella T6 and Ecoguard S4615 filters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flinkly Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 i did filter life testing when i first started my job. but it all depends on what you think is important. do you want EVERYTHING filtered out? are you ok with changing the filter every month? can it be giant, so you don't have to change it every month? What's your price point? do you really care about 5 micron particles? We (where i work) don't care about sub-7 micron particles, and we deal with some VERY precise and small fluid paths (and a TON of them), so i'd venture to guess that a Subaru engine doesn't care either... the main issue with anything is you can't design/make it to please everyone. the filters are made to Subaru spec, and for a good cost. Subaru gets exactly what they ask for. The Brotella Brothers think their STI needs to run on pure, cold-filtered cheetah blood. they don't like OEM filters. There are filters that are "worse" than the OEM filters, and there are probably some that are better. does that "better" make a difference? is it worth the cost? * Build Thread * 26.53 MPG - 12 month Average * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I did it... I made an oil filter thread. Link: https://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/oil-filter-discussion-thread-280949.html?p=5929588#post5929588 Ask Rao "Striving to better, oft we mar what's well." - Bill Shakespeare - car modder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkey Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Ask Rao Huh? No question, was just making thread to move oil filter discussion. 05' LGT, ZFD Built 5MT, Stage 2 Cryotune 91/E85, 170,000mi running BRotella T6 and Ecoguard S4615 filters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Sorry Sparkey, that’s one for the old-timers. "Striving to better, oft we mar what's well." - Bill Shakespeare - car modder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeylord Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Sold my baby today, definitely mixed feelings about that. New owner is a Subaru Ambassador and crazy about Subies. Kept saying this was his dream car/build. I’m sure he will take good care of her. Thanks everyone here for all your support over the years. This community is really something special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTurbo Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Sounds like a suitable new owner. Thanks for your varied contributions here. Related - I recently had a seemingly sudden vacuum issue on the spec b. Wasn't it the lines under the IC? You bet! Reached into my messy tool box and grabbed one of my "Turkey Ts"!!! Was too lazy to have installed before... Thanks, TL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoozeRS05 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Rao: I am thinking of driving my car - is that a good idea? EB's Subaru journal - 2005 LegacyGT Wagon & 2014 Forester FB25 (2008 specB - RIP) IG@legacygtliving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Rao: I am thinking of driving my car - is that a good idea? Funniest thing I've seen all week Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08legacygtturbo Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Finished installing my front and rear wheel hubs on the 08 legacy gt had water dripping out of one of the old ones installed the new power steering pump a few weeks ago so much quieter and smoother now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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