Max Capacity Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I know its a Porsche motor, but why can't I have a motor that pretty? I think it has something to do with....lack of money. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxkita Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 I think it has something to do with....lack of money. I believe most of my experiences with the wagon have their root in lack of money. :spin: Build my car Boxkita Track days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMileHighLGT Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 boxkita- When the cambolts FU'd, did the entire head of the bolt break off, or did just the center hex portion strip out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 boxkita- When the cambolts FU'd, did the entire head of the bolt break off, or did just the center hex portion strip out? Intake bolts sheared about halfway down, just twisted like taffy. The exhaust cam bolts rounded out on the hex section, and then we dremel'd them to try and use other tools on the bolts. I was still hoping we'd take the head off of 'em without wrecking the cam gears. Remember, with bolts, once the head comes off, the clamping force is nil; the remaining resistance comes from the threads and whatever hole they're in. In this particular case, if the head were to come off those bolts, it'd be super easy to just run 'em out by hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMileHighLGT Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Intake bolts sheared about halfway down, just twisted like taffy. The exhaust cam bolts rounded out on the hex section, and then we dremel'd them to try and use other tools on the bolts. I was still hoping we'd take the head off of 'em without wrecking the cam gears. Remember, with bolts, once the head comes off, the clamping force is nil; the remaining resistance comes from the threads and whatever hole they're in. In this particular case, if the head were to come off those bolts, it'd be super easy to just run 'em out by hand. That sucks for intake cam bolts. Suspect excessive use of loctite. As for the exhaust cam bolts I was going to suggest what I did to mine. Quarter them with a grinder, then tap them ccw out with a chisel and hammer, or even drill them out. I had more success with the grinder method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 AFAIK, you can't use loctite on the intake cam bolts because they flow oil. Well, I'm sure you can, but, I wouldn't think it's a good idea, nor would it stick. We tried a few different things to get those exh bolts out. . . I think he's just waiting on the extractor set now, since that's practically a sure bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMileHighLGT Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 It would stick, there usually is sufficient time for it to set during the reassembly. It most definitely should not be used. I'm just saying for it to break where it did I would suspect the loctite especially if those gears have been removed before. Subscribed for the entirety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 It would stick, there usually is sufficient time for it to set during the reassembly. It most definitely should not be used. I'm just saying for it to break where it did I would suspect the loctite especially if those gears have been removed before. Subscribed for the entirety. At first torque, I thought perhaps there was some on/in there, too, but, after it sheared and I turned out the remaining bolt threads with just a small screwdriver and very little effort, it became clear there was no threadlocking adhesive used in that portion of the rebuild. The place you want to use loctite is actually on the crank pulley bolt. You want that sucker down TIGHT, because, if it comes loose while running, ALL the bad things happen. At once. To your ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMileHighLGT Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 So there is no bolt remaining in the intake cam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxkita Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 So there is no bolt remaining in the intake cam? at least on 1 side. I didn't get a look at the engine last night. Probably will be tomorrow before have time to look. Sunex hex bit should be here today or tomorrow. Build my car Boxkita Track days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMileHighLGT Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 If that extractor don't work I have one in my toolbox here at work, that will work, I can send to you, just let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 BTW - FujiBond P/N 004403010, $12.72 a tube at the dealer. Bought two just to have a spare for the engine. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMileHighLGT Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Alternatively you can use black permatex rtv, or even black rtv from right stuff. I used the right stuff, came in a cheese whiz can, made it nice and easy to apply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Built my motor with the "Right Stuff", so much easier to work with and less messy. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxkita Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 at least on 1 side. I didn't get a look at the engine last night. Probably will be tomorrow before have time to look. Sunex hex bit should be here today or tomorrow. Sunex hex came in last night. It fits, so it stays. Well goes to BMB. I'll try this weekend to see if I can get any bolts off with it, as there is some grip when I tried last night. The driver side intake bolt is out. The pass side intake bolt is sheared off and needs the threaded part removed. Both exhaust bolts still have their heads, tho the passenger side is all kinds of messed up from my abuse with the dremel. The dremel is toast. So betting on the extractor kit at the moment. Next step welding kit (cause I always wanted one). I mean how hard is it to learn on your really expensive engine? :spin: Build my car Boxkita Track days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxkita Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 In more positive news, the TiC cam bolts shipped yesterday. Good thing I borrowed a set from BMB. Doh! Build my car Boxkita Track days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxman Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I can go portable with my welder if I need to...keep that in mind 'cause it'll cost you the better part of $2k to tool up to weld properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I can go portable with my welder if I need to...keep that in mind 'cause it'll cost you the better part of $2k to tool up to weld properly. That may have to be the case. John can flip you some brews, and I supposed I'll chip in, too, since we focked that bolt together. I'll bring the coke and the weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobaruGT Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 You have the replacement bolts already I'm assuming. I bought some but didn't need them. I'll send them to you for shipping if you like, though I know you're the type of guy who thinks of these things. EDIT: nm, saw you bought some a few posts earlier. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Updated parts list since original part-out here. Original Full part-out of my LGT HERE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxkita Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 though I know you're the type of guy who thinks of these things. Is that sarcasm? I can't tell anymore. Build my car Boxkita Track days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobaruGT Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Is that sarcasm? I can't tell anymore. Ha! Negatory, sir. It was very genuine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Updated parts list since original part-out here. Original Full part-out of my LGT HERE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxkita Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 I can go portable with my welder if I need to...keep that in mind 'cause it'll cost you the better part of $2k to tool up to weld properly. The extractor kit should be here for next weekend's wagon bash event. If you are available and willing to bring it out, we may need it. I sure hope not. At this point, what's $2k ? A HG replacement job? Build my car Boxkita Track days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxkita Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Ha! Negatory, sir. It was very genuine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sure read like it. Cause I never forget to get stuff (brain fade as laundry list of stuff flys by...). I followed MrTris's shopping list to the letter. However, he apparently has that forgetfulness problem, too. Not everything he needed was on there, either. Net-net, when this is all done, that list will be fixed up a bit. At this point in this project, I can't be frustrated anymore. I may sit in the corner and laugh like a crazy person, but I'm no longer upset about the progress. My wife, OTOH, has a much different perspective. Likely enhanced by finding out how much the storage shed costs. Build my car Boxkita Track days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMileHighLGT Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 That may have to be the case. John can flip you some brews, and I supposed I'll chip in, too, since we focked that bolt together. I'll bring the coke and the weed. "We were just outside of Barstow when the drugs took hold" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxman Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 The extractor kit should be here for next weekend's wagon bash event. If you are available and willing to bring it out, we may need it. I sure hope not. At this point, what's $2k ? A HG replacement job? Do you happen to have a NEMA 6-50R connection in your garage for a 240v dryer hookup? I can run on 120v with no problem but it would be better if you have a dryer receptacle that I could plug into. Looks like this: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61MSk4QeMoL._SY450_.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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