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I installed this combo back in May. Since June I've had this nasty squeak in the rear. I used the plastic loom isolator just as shown.

 

I greased sway bar bushings just to make sure they weren't the issue to no avail.

 

When it rains out, the squeaking goes away.

 

I'm going to have to dismantle the assemblies.

 

Should the bottom of the spring rest on anything besides the metal ring on the shock?

 

Should I grease the top rubber where it contacts the spring? Should I grease the coils?

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Personally, my rear still squeaks... I reused the old rear top hats, but the noise doesn't appear to be coming from that area. I tried putting wire loom all around the entire spring, but it was hard to do it without dismounting the entire assembly. I tried to squeeze it into the tighter coils, but it only helped marginally.

 

It appears to me from bouncing the car and having my buddy listen to it (car was off) that the squeak comes from the lower spring seat, which is metal on metal contact with the spring itself. I bet if you sleeved that bottom part of the spring or oiled only that part the squeeak would disappear.

 

I sprayed WD40 onto the lower part of the spring by the perch (didn't remove the wheel, used a straw) to see if that helped, and it definitely did. Now the squeaking has returned again. I may take the wheel off this time around and properly grease it with some M1 synthetic stuff and see if it helps.

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WD40 is not a lubricant, it is actually a water displacement (WD) solution, so you'll want to apply grease on them.

 

We have had great luck with the McMaster-Carr. Item# 5236K482, but you need to remove the springs and push this tubing over the coils (especially the ones close together) in order to make it work properly, we now do it as a precaution on all LGT rear Koni and/or Epic spring installs.

 

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WD40 is not a lubricant, it is actually a water displacement (WD) solution, so you'll want to apply grease on them.

 

We have had great luck with the McMaster-Carr. Item# 5236K482, but you need to remove the springs and push this tubing over the coils (especially the ones close together) in order to make it work properly, we now do it as a precaution on all LGT rear Koni and/or Epic spring installs.

Yeah, I know, you replied to me earlier in this thread. :) I appreciated the input very much.

 

I know WD40 isn't strictly speaking a lubricant but it does have SOME lubricant in it, like petroleum, which is why it only stopped the squeaking for about 1-2 months before it came back, oops. :p

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Yeah, I know, you replied to me earlier in this thread. :) I appreciated the input very much.

 

I know WD40 isn't strictly speaking a lubricant but it does have SOME lubricant in it, like petroleum, which is why it only stopped the squeaking for about 1-2 months before it came back, oops. :p

 

Yeah, the oil/spray oil will get washed away, especially in this environment in NY/NJ where we get a lot of water spray, puddles, and misc. fluids/excrements shot up under the cars all year long. A good heavy grease will likely last longer as well.

 

-Mike Paisan

 

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Got a question, im on the koni/epic setup have been for a couple months now. Just recently i got 10mm wheel spacers for the rear cuz i didnt like how my rota grids we set in more than the fronts. They look about even no but the problem is that when i go over bumps or a decent uneven surface my rear fenders scrape. It seems to be only on the outer face of the tire. Should i get strut spacers to help this or get my fenders rolled. Was gonna get them rolled/pulle but wont that bring the look of the tires to being not flush any more?
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This mirrors my experience exactly...

 

Personally, my rear still squeaks... I reused the old rear top hats, but the noise doesn't appear to be coming from that area. I tried putting wire loom all around the entire spring, but it was hard to do it without dismounting the entire assembly. I tried to squeeze it into the tighter coils, but it only helped marginally.

 

It appears to me from bouncing the car and having my buddy listen to it (car was off) that the squeak comes from the lower spring seat, which is metal on metal contact with the spring itself. I bet if you sleeved that bottom part of the spring or oiled only that part the squeeak would disappear.

 

I sprayed WD40 onto the lower part of the spring by the perch (didn't remove the wheel, used a straw) to see if that helped, and it definitely did. Now the squeaking has returned again. I may take the wheel off this time around and properly grease it with some M1 synthetic stuff and see if it helps.

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This mirrors my experience exactly...

 

I see you are local, if you wanted us to install the Rubber Tubing we've installed on several cars which seems to be doing the trick, shoot us an e-mail.

 

-Mike Paisan

 

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On the wagons, how do you guys do the shock adjustment since its hidden under the trim?

 

I cut a flap into the carpet so I could pull it out and adjust it. Or you can pull the rear floor out when you need to adjust them.

 

-Mike Paisan

 

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Call Koni, they will set you up with new bolt, washer and lock washer free of charge. I had to get a new one because of a partially stripped hex head and I had a new one in the mail within about 3 business days. Torque to 55 ft/lbs. with LockTite. And check the torque on the other side while you are at it.
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Call Koni, they will set you up with new bolt, washer and lock washer free of charge. I had to get a new one because of a partially stripped hex head and I had a new one in the mail within about 3 business days. Torque to 55 ft/lbs. with LockTite. And check the torque on the other side while you are at it.

 

I called Koni earlier this morning and the guy i spoke with told me they dont have the bolt and washer separate. Told me i needed to order a whole new kit.

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