WESTcoast Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 looks good amp! I might just wanna help out, for my old job I had to use autocad to desgin some stuff, might just put my skills back to use! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zues Marine Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 i think the box is too thin, it may be thick enough to house the filter, but it looks like thats it, there looks to be very minimal space for the air to travel under the filter, also, that looks like a rather extreme bend in the pipe from the back, which is why, i think, that it needs to exit from the side.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 well the the air aint being pulled into the filter evenly. still restrictive. and the bend is just a mock up.. if there is more room to go back before it hits the firewall i will. my next one ill be sure to address the problems you guys think matter! plus. the stock intake has a bend like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 hoses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 the point on the left is wear the fire wall is. plus or minis .5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zues Marine Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 fo sho, just constructive criticism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 o yea. well unlike some i have school tomorrow and im here modeling for you at 130 in the morning. ha ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 Night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz98gt Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 i think the box is too thin, it may be thick enough to house the filter, but it looks like thats it, there looks to be very minimal space for the air to travel under the filter, also, that looks like a rather extreme bend in the pipe from the back, which is why, i think, that it needs to exit from the side.. This. come on guys I go to sleep for a few hours and this happens?? there was like three pages for me to read through haha. great model amp, but zues has it, that outlet pipe from the box should go from the side or right at the corner to keep the bends at a minimum, and from the looks of it it'll give us enough room to bend the pipe back into the TB using the video route you put up. are we going to use the standard maf housing or fab up a whole new one so it doesn't need a stupid bracket? I used a napa part to mount pvc to mine, but had to drill out new holes to make it work. but it fits 3" pvc, so it works for me so far because that's all I used for my fender CAI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 DUDE. i just had the best idea whne i stepped in the shower. so good that i ran back out!!! skecthing it rightnow!!!!!!!!!111! it was like V-tec kicked in yo!!!! HAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subikid90 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 So if I am seeing your model right the bottom where the pipe connects should be open. The hole will start on the side and go through to the bottom. If you want to cut that out get rid of the pipe out the back then use the shape you made for the pipe and extrude cut it through the filter box. I have class soon and after class I will fab up a new design using your idea and putting it out the side kinda. -Subikid90 1997 Legacy GT 5spd & EJ251 w/EJ25D heads ~10.5CR 1998 Legacy GT Limited waiting for EJ22T hybrid swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 So if I am seeing your model right the bottom where the pipe connects should be open. The hole will start on the side and go through to the bottom. If you want to cut that out get rid of the pipe out the back then use the shape you made for the pipe and extrude cut it through the filter box. I have class soon and after class I will fab up a new design using your idea and putting it out the side kinda. yes put i had a hell of a time get the plane at the right angle using a 3 point plane in 3d sketch. question. using loft do the 2 planes have to be parallel. and why cant i sweep a loft. like a .75by 8.6 shape out the box and loft/sweep into a 2.5 tube. well ill try tonight casue that was before i knew how to draw paths just wait. that was just my second try. well the first sucked cause it was laggy. so this is my first real try. TONIGHT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subikid90 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Yes I believe they do have to be parallel planes and you need the path to sweep a loft also. I am working on my design now -Subikid90 1997 Legacy GT 5spd & EJ251 w/EJ25D heads ~10.5CR 1998 Legacy GT Limited waiting for EJ22T hybrid swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz98gt Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 amp, you could also reverse your most recent artwork () so that the to TB is on the right, given the amount of space on either side. I'm not sure if the master cylinder gets in the way on the driver's side, but I'll check that out. I like that idea much better because it's more accessible for service and the bends are minimized. let's see what you have subi; I'm working on another sketch right now (wish I could model, but I'll learn once I go to engineering school). Actually, I can help w/the boot work for where the scoop meets the panel filter, because that's something that I really want to see go into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedmorepsi Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I have a good design, that would be good for rain, less bends. I'm working with placement of maf and hoses right now. Air filter can be almost any size. Don't know if I'll have time to explain or draw out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zues Marine Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 amp, you could also reverse your most recent artwork () so that the to TB is on the right, given the amount of space on either side. I'm not sure if the master cylinder gets in the way on the driver's side, but I'll check that out. I like that idea much better because it's more accessible for service and the bends are minimized. let's see what you have subi; I'm working on another sketch right now (wish I could model, but I'll learn once I go to engineering school). Actually, I can help w/the boot work for where the scoop meets the panel filter, because that's something that I really want to see go into this. did you see my drawing a few pages back? im pretty sure we need to use that.. its what some of the high end intercooler setups use, i'll model up my idea later with cardboar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz98gt Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 i vote no on the maf to map conversion but heres the airflow idea http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t232/wakeboardingguy/random/Untitled-1.jpg using insulated heat foam tubing such as found here This? and can ANYONE get in touch with some fabrication shop, so we can put our ideas into actual models? obviously we would all decide on a final master plan, but once that's all done with a cad and specific measurements and all, we have to get it tested and get the numbers back about if the damn thing actually works haha. as long as we do this as efficiently as possible, I'd expect to see some numerical increases. it's as good as a cai if sealed up properly, and it can have the advantage of a ram air setup at speed...oh this is awesome!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs Legacy Wagon Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 wholy cow guys whent home from work yuou where anly on like page 3 now page 8. keep up the great brainstorming. i actually love seeing all the little post back and forth with ideas getting me excited. keep up the great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdmhatch08 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 wow.. i thought i was the only crazy person who thought of doing that! lol i was just gonna do a filter to maf to tb! def. subscribed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz98gt Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I can't wait to get this thing finalized and fabbed up. this is keeping me going haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 yea jdmhacth. we all...do hell. when some one goes to the dyno they should try it. how knows. maybe it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 ok guys i have home work NOW. and i work the next 3 nights. so if i post again everyone boycott this thread and dont reply to till tomorrow! please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 all i got is math now! be on soon good job guys. haha wait i got a small poster powerpoint thing to finish to and dinner now. at this rate you guys will know how i live daily haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz98gt Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 kinda amp zues, any word on the seal? i'm working on something now (drawing of course ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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