rporter Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Just download & go right to 1.15. I have found that it takes a good 100 miles to be totally adapted. I only have about 10 miles on 1.15, and while a couple of things feel a bit different, I won't know for awhile yet. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sduford Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 It's the other way around with mine. It's awesome after a reflash or reset, but then it gradually peters-out over the next 100 miles. Sylvain www.digitalfotographer.com - Audi Q5 Club - MB-GLK Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rporter Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 The mind can play many tricks...... Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDXTuning Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Depending on the tune, either can happen. If the map is too aggressive you will loose power over time. If the map is not setup quite right it will learn to get stronger over a couple hundred miles. If the tune is perfect it will be strong after just a couple pulls. Jarrad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rporter Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Depending on the tune, either can happen. If the map is too aggressive you will loose power over time. If the map is not setup quite right it will learn to get stronger over a couple hundred miles. If the tune is perfect it will be strong after just a couple pulls. Jarrad Not sure that I agree with that. With the adaptive learning that many cars have (besides Subaru), the adaptive learning will fine-tune to your driving style. With a fresh AP base map load, I always feel a difference right off, but it does improve over time. I had the same situation on my previous Fords after doing resets to the EEC-IV ECUs, both with & without chips. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLU24 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 if i get a crucial UP n a shorty DP can i still run stage 2 or do i need to do something about my stock 3rd cat(immediately) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 you can run stage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 if i get a crucial UP n a shorty DP can i still run stage 2 or do i need to do something about my stock 3rd cat(immediately) ? You'll want to review the FAQ at Cobb a bit more in-depth. Like jim1969 said, even the shorty DP will allow you to "run Stage II," however, as stated in Cobb's FAQ, optimal AccessPort Stage II mapping benefits are not realized without a full TBE. <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sduford Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Not sure that I agree with that. With the adaptive learning that many cars have (besides Subaru), the adaptive learning will fine-tune to your driving style. With a fresh AP base map load, I always feel a difference right off, but it does improve over time. I had the same situation on my previous Fords after doing resets to the EEC-IV ECUs, both with & without chips. I think that is a myth. The transmission might adapt to your driving sytle but the ECU spends most of it's time trying to adapt to the fuel/air/temperature conditions and keeping your engine from detonating itself to pieces. In my case, the 91 octane we have a round here doesn't seem to be quite good enough for the engine. So right after a reset it performs great and works smoothly. After 100 miles or os it feels like the ECU has pulled back significantly (probably because of knock) and the stutter shows its ugly head. I don't think it has anything to do with my driving style and everything to do with the quality of the gasoline. I've tried a few times to put Sunuco 94 octane in it and the power comes back while the stutter completely disappears. That stuff is expensive though... Sylvain www.digitalfotographer.com - Audi Q5 Club - MB-GLK Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rporter Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I think that is a myth. The transmission might adapt to your driving sytle but the ECU spends most of it's time trying to adapt to the fuel/air/temperature conditions and keeping your engine from detonating itself to pieces. Not a myth at all. It's been around at least since the late '80s with Ford, and Subaru has in in their description of the LGT. On Fords (and others I'm sure), tuners will remove the adaptive processing (with either chips or the SCTuner devices) on highly modified cars so that they can keep a consistent level of tune without the ECU trying to correct things. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sduford Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I didn't say the ECU wasn't adaptive. I'm saying it adapts to driving conditions (fuel, temperature, air densitiy, etc.) rather then to the driving style of the driver. Sylvain www.digitalfotographer.com - Audi Q5 Club - MB-GLK Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ255_alan Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 just one dumb question after you uploaded the new map into the onboard ECU you can unplug your AP no problem right?? and what is the most updated version availiable @ the moment? 1.15?? ps. if you guys DO keep the AP on the car, where did you guys place it?? in the glove box? the storage above the center console?? storage afterthe cup holders?? best regards alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rporter Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Yes, you unplug it. I keep it in a ziplock bag in the storage bin over the spare tire. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAHAWK Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Does anyone know if the 2005 Accessport with work with the 2006 Legacy? And no the 2006 doesn't have a catless uppipe...in case anyone brings that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GizmoII Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Need help, when i plug the two test plugs together i don't get the flashing check engine light. The fans run thru their cycle but no check engine light. Do i proceed to reflashing? I looked everywhere for a second set of test connector but with no luck. Need quick help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlabs Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Need help, when i plug the two test plugs together i don't get the flashing check engine light. The fans run thru their cycle but no check engine light. Do i proceed to reflashing? I looked everywhere for a second set of test connector but with no luck. Need quick help. Read... Search... Seek... http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17640&highlight=cobb+flash COBB: Update the freakin' manual already! -=- Livin life at 140 BPM -=- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GizmoII Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Thanks Star, uploading at 10%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewster Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 why is it if you just have the AP from Cobb it is considered Stage 1 but if you get the AP with PDXtuning maps it is a Stage 0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GizmoII Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Cause Stage 1 was already taken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 why is it if you just have the AP from Cobb it is considered Stage 1 but if you get the AP with PDXtuning maps it is a Stage 0? It's because these "Stages" are not truly defined: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1526&highlight=stage These very arbitrary "stages" - as you can see - is very confusing to just about everyone involved. The "stages" are often defined by both the community involved (i.e. a "Stage I" Scooby can be very different, from, say, a "Stage I" SRT-4) and/or the retailer/tuner who packages such modifications. As you've cited for yourself above, drewster, your confusion stems from the latter of the two reasons. I, for one, would love for this type of reference to be chucked-out-the-window. <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewster Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 thanks for the reference, now my next step is to read up on up and down pipes.... i'm sure more confusion ahead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 NP - and don't worry, everyone gets confused about the UP/DP stuff the first time around! <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derffred Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 so, i bought my AP and finally got it last tuesday... my basemap is stage 1 93 octane.. i run sunoco 94 octane... but i decided to play around with the other maps, like valet mode and the antithefts and stuff... and a question about the economy mode that i downloaded from the site... i don't feel a difference between econ and stock or even stage 1.... i couldn't feel a difference, they say the turn off the boost controller... buttt i still feel boost and the car still moves.. i don't see how it's in any way, shape, or form "economical".. is that map messed up or something? did i do something wrong? the two antithefts are no different from each other... they are both crank, no start conditions... it's just one runs about a second longer before stalling. ALL IS APPRECIATED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rporter Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Do a Search for the Economy Mode, it was discussed in some earlier threads in other AP topics. There are some specific driving conditions that make the Economy mode work as advertised. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sduford Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Boost should level-off at 3500 RPM. There should be a very noticeable difference above that, but below that it feels pretty normal. Perhaps you're not doing the RT map switch properly? Sylvain www.digitalfotographer.com - Audi Q5 Club - MB-GLK Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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