parkergc8 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 We reccomend having your desired performance map as base. (for performance reasons exactly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 I've been reading every page of this, and although I now have a slight headache I still have a few questions. 1. I'm not quite sure about the r/t maps.. is this accessport thing something you can put away in your house after flashing the base map? or is it something you want to keep with you? I'm kind of a mod it and forget it kind of guy.. I dont want to have to think about this kind of thing a lot. 2. some guys have mentioned this but it was not directly addressed, can this thing be detected by the dealership, and does it mess with your warranty in any way? 3. does such a thing reduce engine life in any way? I've always wondered how it was that so many companies (for my last vehicle it was places like superchips diablo etc. making re-tunes) manage to do things better than the factory with seemingly no side-effects?? 4. I always run 93 octane, we dont have 91 here, only 87 89 and 93 so I always put in 93, one guy on here mentioned running a 91 stage 1 anyway just to be safe.. is there a degree of.. I dunno non-safe here? heh, bad wording.. if I'm in a bad mood or in a hurry I can be pretty mean to a vehicle, so I dont want to hurt the thing in one of those 15 minute drives that takes 5 minutes if ya know what I mean. Thanks guys, oh, and most improtantly.. where can I buy this? I didn't spend long on the cobb website, but I couldn't find during my time there where on the site any information on the ap was, nor where to buy such a thing. "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abakja1 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 How does the valet and anti-theft map work? For example, how would I "load" either before I leave the car to the valet parking guy or if I go shopping in a mall? I take it then that most people would have to have the AP hooked up and taken with you when you want to use the valet and anti-theft modes all the time too,... sorry,..just trying to understand the concept on the valet and anti-theft modes as I cant see myself telling the valet guy "Wait while I load the Valet mode on my ECU,." as he's waiting to park my car and if Im using the 91 Oct base map,.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sduford Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 How does the valet and anti-theft map work? For example, how would I "load" either before I leave the car to the valet parking guy or if I go shopping in a mall? I take it then that most people would have to have the AP hooked up and taken with you when you want to use the valet and anti-theft modes all the time too,... sorry,..just trying to understand the concept on the valet and anti-theft modes as I cant see myself telling the valet guy "Wait while I load the Valet mode on my ECU,." as he's waiting to park my car and if Im using the 91 Oct base map,.. Yes, they are real-time maps and in order to use them you need to plug-in the AP and switch maps, which takes about 30 seconds. Sylvain www.digitalfotographer.com - Audi Q5 Club - MB-GLK Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWDxBOOST Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 i just thought of this the other day say someone makes a map that is meant for stage 2 with a fmic, i guess with street tuner software, do you need street tuner software to use it? or can you just download it onto the free slot in the regular AP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mblock66 Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Yeah I was thinking the same thing. If people create maps for certain mods on street tuner can we share? Probably not the best idea since it is car specific but would it work? That was if another 5EAT had pullies and say an intake we could share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWDxBOOST Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 it should work...as long as it was done in about the same climate/ altitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sduford Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Yeah I was thinking the same thing. If people create maps for certain mods on street tuner can we share? Probably not the best idea since it is car specific but would it work? That was if another 5EAT had pullies and say an intake we could share? Nope, according to the literature on Cobb's website, StreetTuner maps are not shareable, they will only work on the AP they are married to. Until someone figures out a hack I guess... Sylvain www.digitalfotographer.com - Audi Q5 Club - MB-GLK Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekdut Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 What about with the PROtuner? I could not exactly ascertain how they work. When our cars get "Protuned", do we get new maps on our AP that we can still swap out with the stock or economy map? Or is this like an ECUTek tune where the process overwrites the ECU directly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWDxBOOST Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Nope, according to the literature on Cobb's website, StreetTuner maps are not shareable, they will only work on the AP they are married to. Until someone figures out a hack I guess... bleh...thats crap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Is anyone using ECUtek on their Legacy or has everyone decided to use the Accesport? I meet on Wednesday with a bunch of WRX guys that swear on the ECUtek - honestly, after asking them why they felt it was better I only got "it's well worth the extra $200" then a whole buttload of techno babble, which I totally don't understand. So in layman terms, what's the differences and are they basically equal (except for price)? - Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deer Killer Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Nope, according to the literature on Cobb's website, StreetTuner maps are not shareable, they will only work on the AP they are married to. Until someone figures out a hack I guess...They must have changed it then. Probably all the tuners getting all pissy. Originally they said the point of streettuner was to be able to share maps.. edit: it's right on the cobb site right now: Other Software Features The StreetTUNER allows users the ability to Save and SHARE their files with other StreetTUNER users. Files can be saved in both StreetTUNER BASE MAP and REAL TIME formats. Various Staged and convenience Base Maps are also provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unilat Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 I read that as well - the key to sharing is that all parties involved have to own the street tuner software. I imagine it's to protect the pro - tuning market and to protect other users from a map that people with a little knowledge (i.e. dangerous) would create with street tuner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sduford Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 My bad, my memory must be failing me. I was convinced I read a few months ago that they couldn't be shared. To share with other StreetTUNER users makes sense. I see a lot of potential liability issues with that though... Sylvain www.digitalfotographer.com - Audi Q5 Club - MB-GLK Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rporter Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 What liability? The StreetTuner itself is a device that allows people to hose up their engines in any way that they see fit!!!! ;-) You're on your own with any roll-your-own software tool, whether you develop your own, or get a map from someone else. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sduford Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Of course, but what you do with your own car is your business. But if you lend your maps to someone else, and blow their engine up... Sylvain www.digitalfotographer.com - Audi Q5 Club - MB-GLK Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattg Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 i'm getting an AP w/ PDXtuning maps. ships out tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYsFinest Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 For stage 1 what is the hp? For stage 2 what is the hp? For stage 3 what is the hp? Also, has anyone ever done a stage 1 and not gained the 40 hp that supposedly was suppose to happen? This goes for stage 2 and 3 as well......... Thanks for whoever answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_T Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 For stage 1 what is the hp? For stage 2 what is the hp? For stage 3 what is the hp? Also, has anyone ever done a stage 1 and not gained the 40 hp that supposedly was suppose to happen? This goes for stage 2 and 3 as well......... Thanks for whoever answers. I don't remeber my butt-dyno telling me I gained 40 hp with stage one. I'm not sure Stg 1 is supposed to give that. Prolly more like 20+ if UR lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rporter Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 If you do a search in this Forum, the two relevant tests for Stage 1 (for me, anyway) were: Cobb got 224 WHP on a Mustang Dyno Another private owner got 223.9 WHP on a 424x Dynojet. Cobb's dyno for Stage 2 were 237 WHP. No Stage 3, AFAIK. IIRC, stock LGT dyno 3s were clustered around 200 WHP. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 i'm getting an AP w/ PDXtuning maps. ships out tomorrow. I didn't know PDXtuning did Cobb AP's. Do you mean ECUTek map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYsFinest Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I don't remeber my butt-dyno telling me I gained 40 hp with stage one. I'm not sure Stg 1 is supposed to give that. Prolly more like 20+ if UR lucky. When I went to Cobbs site, they claimed 40 hp. 20 hp is a small gain....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mblock66 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Actually the breakdown is this..... Stage I = +27.6 HP +28.7 TQ Stage II = +13.8 HP +37.9 TQ (this is ON TOP of stage I) There are wheel HP TQ numbers. Not Crank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYsFinest Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 They are putting out numbers for stage 1 that claims 290 hp/301 torque. I guess I should of known that was too good to be true. But w/ the numbers you posted it doesn't seem worth doing all the stages. That really isn't that significant of a gain in either hp or torque that I would of thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rporter Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Keep something in mind. Peak HP numbers ain't worth a pile of steaming feces, IMNSHO. The torque curve from idle out to the peak is what gives you what you want. if you do a mod that increases torque throughout the rpm range, but adds nothing to the peak HP, you will like it better than one that lowers the torque curve and only adds peak HP (with torque way up on the top end). Keep in mind that HP is not "real", it is a derivative calculation based on torque over rpm. Torque is real. Increasing gross torque numbers is something that you can feel. Now, in an old RWD musclecar, you ca easily change the rear-end gearing to get back the low-midrange torque from puttng in a big cam, big-tube headers, or a too-big carb. Not the case on these or many other AWD/FWD cars. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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