brhays Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 We used to have 2 LGTs, now we have an LGT and a Spec B. We picked up our 07 Spec B with about 10,000 miles on it for just a shade under $30K, when it had stickered for $36K just 8 months earlier. It also had the SPT exhaust, which is great, and the SPT intake, which we quickly ditched and replaced with stock. I don't know if all 07 Spec B cars come with this upgrade, but it added about $1K of value to the car in my eyes. At that price, it wound up being about $3K more than a comparable LGT, and I would call that worth it. I would not say, owning one, that it would be worth $8K or even $5K more than an LGT. Never start modding, kids. It's too late for me, save yourselves! Hooray for 07+ AccessPORT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjundi Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 IMHO no. However I only paid 24K OTD brand new for a LGT non-limited wagon manual. Which taints my "worth" in general of a LGT in version. I did get a chance to drive the SpecB and liked it however not for $10k premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudy Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 I think the Legacy GT is on par with segment leaders in the 25-30k range. Above 30k, I'm not considering a Legacy anymore, regardless if the model above is "worth it" when you add up the sum of the upgrades. Above 30k, the comparision is now against BMW, Infiniti, and maybe even the new C-class, all of which have more appropriate brand value above 30k than Subaru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 I think the Legacy GT is on par with segment leaders in the 25-30k range. Above 30k, I'm not considering a Legacy anymore, regardless if the model above is "worth it" when you add up the sum of the upgrades. Above 30k, the comparision is now against BMW, Infiniti, and maybe even the new C-class, all of which have more appropriate brand value above 30k than Subaru. I see your point, however I feel that a LGT in the $30k range will get you more options. Cars like the 3 series or C class start in the low $30s (not too long ago they started at $25k hmm.) but then you add things like heated seats and bigger wheels and we are taling $36k and up. I think what it comes down to is do you want to pay for status, add $10k for status and performance, or do you just want the performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZZMAN Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I have a 2006 spec b, with stage two mods. I have had the car one year (12k)... I get many kudos. I think the 07-08 models have a blue accent interior. Mine has red brick leather and many people have commented on the good color combo. The people at the tunning shop where I took my 06 said the Spec b has a bit more turbo boost. 2006 Legacy Spec b 2000 Mazda Miata Special Edition 2006 Honda Odyssey Touring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paycer Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I see your point, however I feel that a LGT in the $30k range will get you more options. Cars like the 3 series or C class start in the low $30s (not too long ago they started at $25k hmm.) but then you add things like heated seats and bigger wheels and we are taling $36k and up. I think what it comes down to is do you want to pay for status, add $10k for status and performance, or do you just want the performance? Correctamundo! This was exactly my wife's and my conclusion after driving about 8 other competing cars which included the spec.B. After wringing out each of the test cars a bit, we decided that no other car in the 30--40K range gave a better bang for the buck than the sB. A few contenders offered more power but the cost for the extra HP came at a major cost. Example --> 335Xi. The cost difference is ludicrous for what you get compared to the spec.B, Yeah it's faster but but it felt like an appliance to drive. It has the sport package but on the Xi you can't get the better shocks with sport package. Nope, not offered. Nice.... Our tester came in at 48K and unless they had a case of columbia's finest in the trunk, I can't figure out what they thought they were bringing to the table for the extra coin. Advanced Engineering? Maybe, but I seriously don't think the BMW felt like it had 15K more engineering in it. Trust me when I tell you that I explored the cars capabilities. Anyway, that must leave implied status or something. Whatever. the 335 is an attractive car (well, the coupe is) but it's way more 'invisible' in traffic than the sB is. Common as Grand Cherokees too. Do they give them out in the mail or what? I'll sum up my pro-subie rant with this: Subaru is like BMW used to be when it was a less expensive, sporting alternative to Mercedes Benz (I'm talking late 60's, through the 70's mainly). It's auto evolution that a new underdog will emerge from the depths. Now, it's Subaru's turn to rise up and become world class, the underdog if you will. The spec.B is only the beggining of FHI's master plan to come outta nowhere and b-slap the krauts right out of their lederhosen. Mark my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 If one is into racing, sure it is. Here is teh definitve answer to the question: http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1454531 post #10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 If one is into racing, sure it is. Here is teh definitve answer to the question: http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1454531 post #10 Originally Posted by rao http://legacygt.com/forums/skynetim/buttons/viewpost.gif It's the King of Cars!!!! The Legacy has a fine suspension; it is not a race car and some people want to make it feel like one. I blieve the OP was refering to the Spec. not the LGT. The Spec.B is closer to a race car. The inverted strut suspension with Al control arms would make it closer to a race car compared to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I'll sum up my pro-subie rant with this: Subaru is like BMW used to be when it was a less expensive, sporting alternative to Mercedes Benz (I'm talking late 60's, through the 70's mainly). It's auto evolution that a new underdog will emerge from the depths. Now, it's Subaru's turn to rise up and become world class, the underdog if you will. Mark my words. Hence the nickname... preach on brotha! The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest heightsgtltd Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 What I want to know is, will Vimy still feel this way long after he has moved on to another car?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 What I want to know is, will Vimy still feel this way long after he has moved on to another car?? That depends. If I move to a car with a less capable suspension and a detuned engine, most probably not. However, if I were to fondly recall the inverted strut suspension and OEM Stage I perfromance, then probably so. Like I say, it depends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest heightsgtltd Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 <shakes head> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongHiway Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 About 2 years ago Road & Track (I think, there's a thread somewhere on this site) took a stock GT and upgraded it to a Spec B +/- some cosmetic features. R&T's version came in about $500 less than a SPEC B, which I always figured was pretty much the cost of SOA warranty on the finished product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_STI Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 did they swap in the 6spd ?? IMHO thts the biggest difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 ^ First, because they have it in inventory and second, to make the brochure look more equivalent to other high end sports sedan OEMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongHiway Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I'm pretty sure it was an '06, so, 5 spd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psi365 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 About 2 years ago Road & Track (I think, there's a thread somewhere on this site) took a stock GT and upgraded it to a Spec B +/- some cosmetic features. R&T's version came in about $500 less than a SPEC B, which I always figured was pretty much the cost of SOA warranty on the finished product. Yes they actually took a regular LGT and upgraded the suspension to where iirc it had an electronically adjustable suspension for $500 cheaper, but did that include the labor for installation and an alignment? Their car actually handled better then the sB, but it still didn't have the aluminum suspension bits,steering wheel atmounted audio controls, memory seats, alacantara/brick red seats, nav and other sB stuff. It only had an upgraded suspension. There was also another article that R&T did iirc that pitted the A4 2.0T, MS6, Bmw 330xi, G35x, and the sB. The Audi overall won just barely, but they went on to say if price was a factor the sB would have won hands down. To think the sB was probably one of the cheaper of the bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobE Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 ...memory seats... '06 Spec B didnt have memory seats. http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 '06 Spec B didnt have memory seats. But it had red seats which are AWESOME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psi365 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 '06 Spec B didnt have memory seats. Ok you got me on one thing, but the 06's were also numbered, and had a sB only exterior and interior color. Happy? Also the OP wasn't exactly specific as to year or being in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2ip Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I was trade in my 2005 LGT for 2007 Spec B lose $CAD 18K. I love Spec B batter than LGT, the handing is totally difference than LGT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobE Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Also the OP wasn't exactly specific as to year or being in general. But you were. http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtom Posted October 23, 2007 Author Share Posted October 23, 2007 I should have specified that; I am only looking at new cars....... Its still a tough decision. Unfortunately I think either legacy might not be my style. The legacy might seem a little too adult for me. All your advice was still appreciated because if I consider a legacy I will know which trim level to go with. While I really dislike the transmission, the R32 is a possibility. I doubt I will like DSG since I have only driven traditional manuals though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I got the Coilovers and a Magellan. Swapping the NAV from car to car FTW!!! I love the Spec B but I'm sure my wagon would beat it hands down. As stated earlier, if you are going to leav it stock (kinda hard with these cars) then the Shrec B, if you gonna mod, then the GT cuz you can allways go one more over the Bilstein which looks like a Tonka BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtom Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 I actually will probably keep it mostly stock, maybe a exhaust or intake...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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