THE RZA Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Idk man when I still had to use my CZ Scorpion as a 16” when I lived in NJ it was the most fun to shoot rifle I had. It’s more fun now that it has a 8” barrel and a can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Well in NY a CZ Skorpion is illegal because it can accept a detachable magazine and has a pistol grip. Or a threaded barrel. Or a thumb hole stock. Seriously not worth the effort. Buy a good lever action rifle in .44 Magnum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE RZA Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 CZ does California compliant scorpions, they wrap kydex around the pistol grip so it's no longer a "pistol grip" You can however buy what they call a "non-NFA firearm" which is essentially a Scorpion with a pistol brace and vertical foregrip because the Barrel is 10-12" and has an overall length of 26.5" when a weapon is at that length it's too long to be considered a handgun and since it doesn't have a stock it's not a rifle. They're classified as a "firearm, other" and because of that, they aren't subject to assault weapons bans. They can have any feature they want that an AR can't. They're very popular in NJ, NY, CT and Massachusetts because the "assault weapon" laws are absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowser51 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 My husky barks at nothing. She's really quiet. My Shepherd only barks at deer. She will not bark at people. So my dogs are useless as protectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 My dogs are pretty good about barking when appropriate. The GSD constantly patrols her area lest the hated squirrels take over, and she always answers the door if she hears any movement of the door. She’s not going to go after anyone though. The Rottweiler we weren’t sure about, but this past summer the in-laws stayed with us for a week and the first night my father-in-law got up at 0300 because that’s what he does (grew up on a farm), and Jack (our Rott) heard that and went ape shit. He was mad as hell that someone was in the house moving around that wasn’t us. I’m confident he would have attacked a stranger in the house, he wanted out of our bedroom. Fortunately once he was out and identified my FIL he was back to his happy goofy self. He’s put himself in between my son and people he doesn’t know, or even family when they’re rough housing and my son squeals or play time gets too loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmP6889928 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 OK...time for more advice from the knowledgeable folks here. Opinions on Landor Arms BPX902 12 GA. Semi-Auto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Never heard of it, so hard pass. Auto loading shotguns are best bought from companies that have a proven track record of making them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxkita Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 OK...time for more advice from the knowledgeable folks here. Opinions on Landor Arms BPX902 12 GA. Semi-Auto? when reviews have this or similar wording more than once "Jammed only twice"; delete the link and cross the weapon off your list. A baseball bat is better. a defensive weapon should never jam Build my car Boxkita Track days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Yeah if a reviewer mentions malfunctioning “a few times” that = couldn’t make it through one full magazine under any circumstances with any ammo ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmP6889928 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Solid advice gentlemen. That's why I ask questions here about things I don't know about. Thanks much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red beast Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 HOMEMADE SILENCER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
700watts Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just too heavy to lug around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 As a static emplacement on a home range to mitigate noise I can see the merit. Otherwise kind of pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodan Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 +1... might work for static noise abatement, but that's about it. And there's probably much more elegant ways to do it. Speaking of noise abatement, I had been looking for a bolt .22 as a suppressor host for a while, but 2020 happened. Availability went to zero, and used stuff was selling for nuthouse prices. Savages that were $219 retail in 2019 are now selling for over $400 used. LGS had a Tikka T1X hanging on the wall, which I had ignored previously because of the cost, but now the delta over a "cheap" bolt was only ~$100, so I grabbed it before it disappeared. And I'm pretty glad I did. Coincidentally, my club was starting up a benchrest .22 match series, so I went fully down the rabbit hole, and picked up a KRG chassis, and a cheap Mueller 8-32x optic. This thing shoots pretty darn good, and I'm just using CCI Standard Velocity ammo. I haven't been able to get any 'real' target .22 to try yet. My best on a USBR target is only 214/250 so far, but I'm still working on my technique. Oh, and it's super quiet suppressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Ditch the suppressor for competition, rimfires usually tighten up without a can. By the way CCI Standard Velocity has out shot some “target” ammo in my Cooper M57 and Kimber M82. If you find a good lot of CCI Standard Velocity it can be very good ammo. Pretty sure CCI Green Tag is really just excellent lots of Standard Velocity tested and packaged as Green Tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodan Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 I have heard that about CCI SV. So far I haven't been able to find any Green Tag to test. It didn't like Remington Target at all, nor does it seem to like anything 'high velocity'. Around 1050-1100fps seems to be its happy place. FWIW, I've tested the above Tikka with and without the can (Mask HD), and haven't seen any repeatable differences in group size at 50yds. The weakest link in the chain right now is me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 On .22LR ammo, there’s a reason you don’t see “high velocity” match ammo from any manufacturer. Even at extended distances the standard velocity stuff out performs higher velocity loads. I would suggest you pick up a box of Eley Tenex or Lapua Midas to see what your Tikka is actually capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodan Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 I got a tip last night on some 'in stock' .22 and ordered SK Flat Nose Target, and Standard Plus this morning. They didn't have any of the SK 'Match' varieties. No Midas or Center-X, and I decided to pass on a box of X-Act at $35. Didn't carry Eley. Lapua actually has a test center here in AZ... I'm tempted, but I'm not sure I want to know that the best shooting ammo out of my rifle is $35 a box of 50! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Practice with the less expensive stuff and shoot matches with the pricey ammo when your skill level is high enough the couple of extra points or "X"s will actually decide your standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodan Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 ATF is after pistol braces again... https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/factoring-criteria-firearms-attached-stabilizing-braces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Yep. I think the NFA is bullshit, but how did the bubbas of the world really think ATF wasn’t going to do this? The braces are very clearly designed as a stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE RZA Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 They tried this before and they backed down. The problem with banning braces is they’re protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act (their designed use) & the Consumer Protection Act which prohibits limiting the sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 If that’s the legal arguments plaintiffs hope to make, good luck to them. They’re gonna lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodan Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Yep. I think the NFA is bullshit, but how did the bubbas of the world really think ATF wasn’t going to do this? The braces are very clearly designed as a stock. Well, the ATF officially allowed them, and then even said you could shoulder them. There have to be hundreds of thousands of these things in circulation. I think there's a very reasonable argument that if they want to change their mind and make them illegal, they have to compensate people for the cost, or waive the cost of the tax stamp to register them. Either one is a non-starter.... it would cost millions to compensate owners, and they don't have the capability to process current NFA applications in a timely manner, much less a hundred thousand new applications overnight. They should just remove short barrels and suppressors from the NFA, but that will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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