ALX2987 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Hey Bren. Currently stage 2 on my 09 5 speed LGT. invidia catted dp, grimmspeed ebcs, tuned. I'm trying to decide if an ELH is worth the money. It's my daily, so I don't want to touch the fuel or turbo right now. I'm looking to gain the most "usable" power, as in mid range hp/tq, VERY rarely does it see 5k rpm. There's such contradicting info out there from "gains 30 hp on lightly modded" to "doesn't do anything unless your running an FPred." So being stage 2, what have you seen as a realistic power gain? And if not an ELH, any recommendation? Thanks man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrenTuning Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Hey Bren. Currently stage 2 on my 09 5 speed LGT. invidia catted dp, grimmspeed ebcs, tuned. I'm trying to decide if an ELH is worth the money. It's my daily, so I don't want to touch the fuel or turbo right now. I'm looking to gain the most "usable" power, as in mid range hp/tq, VERY rarely does it see 5k rpm. There's such contradicting info out there from "gains 30 hp on lightly modded" to "doesn't do anything unless your running an FPred." So being stage 2, what have you seen as a realistic power gain? And if not an ELH, any recommendation? Thanks man Your VF46 is more a of choking point than the stock manifold, yes you will pick up more torque and a little midrange. But the bang for the buck ratio is very low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALX2987 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Thanks man, thats what I figured, So at this point I guess the next step would be vf52, 16g on stock fuel I guess? Fuel would clearly be the limiting factor, but as my daily I dont want to to get too crazy, as much as I would love to be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrenTuning Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Thanks man, thats what I figured, So at this point I guess the next step would be vf52, 16g on stock fuel I guess? Fuel would clearly be the limiting factor, but as my daily I dont want to to get too crazy, as much as I would love to be able to. Yup either of those would be what I would recommend for you turbo wise. Both have similar spool up times to the VF46, here's an example of the powerband changes http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4310662&postcount=6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 have you encountered boost creep on any cars running the vf52 stock with a lot of bolt ons? if so what's worked out best for you to resolve it? common on some vf39 also -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrenTuning Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 Almost never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm25rs Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 A BNR16g or VF52 would be what you are looking for. A downpipe will definitely open it up. But your list seems fine for what you are asking. We've done a handful with a similar setup for customers who were just looking to have a more reliable car and weren't necessarily looking for a lot more performance. Let us know if you decide on an e-tune, we would be more than happy to get your car running safely. I finally bought an AP - just sent sales@brentuning.com an email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaresmk Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I'm trying to planning my next step. WOuld like your thoughts on any thing i am forgetting or issues i will run into. I plan on getting this turbo http://www.6starspeed.com/vf65tu.html Basically a very nice upgrade vf52 $1400 AVO Front mount intercooler $1300 AVO Turbo inlet $215 ID topfeed conversion with 850cc injectors $800 Grimmspeed ebcs $125 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDiGreg617 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Planning on doing an up-pipe on my legacy, while i'm there what else should i be doing? wastegate, bpv? ALso i have a throw together tool kit that most of the time gets the job done, what are the basics in your opinion for a good tuning/ auto tool kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrenTuning Posted November 5, 2013 Author Share Posted November 5, 2013 I'm trying to planning my next step. WOuld like your thoughts on any thing i am forgetting or issues i will run into. I plan on getting this turbo http://www.6starspeed.com/vf65tu.html Basically a very nice upgrade vf52 $1400 AVO Front mount intercooler $1300 AVO Turbo inlet $215 ID topfeed conversion with 850cc injectors $800 Grimmspeed ebcs $125 Sounds like you've got everything! We've been playing with the TurboSmart IWG lately and it's a nice little add on. Not a necessary one but doesn't hurt. Planning on doing an up-pipe on my legacy, while i'm there what else should i be doing? wastegate, bpv? ALso i have a throw together tool kit that most of the time gets the job done, what are the basics in your opinion for a good tuning/ auto tool kit? A lot of people do the downpipe while it's off. I reccomend removing/replacing the banjo bolt filter. Check the turbo for shaft play as well. Tool kit, a metric socket kit, boost leak tester ect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaresmk Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Sweet would A holy header be a good ad on and would an ETS be a better upgrade than the avo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrenTuning Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 Sweet would A holy header be a good ad on and would an ETS be a better upgrade than the avo? A good ELH does wonders. The KillerB Holy Header is a real nice piece, along with the Invidia 1.5scroll header. We recommend the Invidia option to a lot of people due to it's great results and price point. Either FMIC will work just fine. Both are quality pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaresmk Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I don't think the Invidia will fit my Moroso oil pan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heykennedy Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Hi all. This is possibly rude but I don't mean to be. I am looking for some unbiased information about some track logs that a fellow forum member for another car forum site posted recently. You see...I am new to mods and tuning and we have a canned tune that may or may not be causing some problems. You know how forums can get and people are starting with accusations and blaming each other with very little talk about the facts. So I have some data a fellow member gathered on their tuned car from a recent track run. Would someone with knowledge mind taking a look at it and provide some feedback about what they see? Is there anything that stands out as worrisome, good, or other? Thanks for the consideration in advance. I've attached a excel/csv file with boost/vacuum, intake air temp, AFR, wot, RPM, MPH, Ambient Air Temp, Engine Coolant Temp, Timing Advance, and Torque Converter Slip. I just don't really know what I am looking at to analyze it. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzEvtQDZiV5gNmJQcEg1T28xR2s/edit?usp=sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrenTuning Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Hi all. This is possibly rude but I don't mean to be. I am looking for some unbiased information about some track logs that a fellow forum member for another car forum site posted recently. You see...I am new to mods and tuning and we have a canned tune that may or may not be causing some problems. You know how forums can get and people are starting with accusations and blaming each other with very little talk about the facts. So I have some data a fellow member gathered on their tuned car from a recent track run. Would someone with knowledge mind taking a look at it and provide some feedback about what they see? Is there anything that stands out as worrisome, good, or other? Thanks for the consideration in advance. I've attached a excel/csv file with boost/vacuum, intake air temp, AFR, wot, RPM, MPH, Ambient Air Temp, Engine Coolant Temp, Timing Advance, and Torque Converter Slip. I just don't really know what I am looking at to analyze it. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzEvtQDZiV5gNmJQcEg1T28xR2s/edit?usp=sharing Hi, Did a quick google search of your forum name, is it right to assume this car is a Optima? Without having dug into an ECU and see what the car likes it's hard to judge it. It does look like something we'd see from a stock ECU though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heykennedy Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Yes, it is an Optima. Thanks for your reply. I was thinking that more data would be needed in order to analyze the log accurately. This log is from a car that was running a 93 octane tune flashed on the ECU. The latest comments over there on our forum are pointing to the only changes being made to the ECU appear to be to AFR and boost. It appears none are being made to timing by the company that sells the tune. The company is, of course, working on it behind closed doors and the forum members are trying to reverse engineer how the tune works to help assess the problems it may be causing and, if so, why it's causing problems. Then you throw in variables such as aftermarket performance mods to boot. I'm new to all of this so was just trying to get an outside opinion. So it's interesting to hear you say that this looks like a stock ECU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrenTuning Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 Well reverse engineering a tune with using Torque's data-logger isn't going to show you any of the good stuff. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfoyle Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Hey Bren, my buddy has a 4th gen that's completely stock except for a VF52 turbo. It was tuned for that turbo when it was installed, but he doesn't really know many of the details. He's considering swapping his uppipe for a catless version, so he doesn't blow his turbo in the event the cat goes bad. He's wondering if he'd need a new tune for this swap, or if he'd be fine with his initial tune (no plans for downpipe or other exhaust/intake mods... just the catless uppipe for peace of mind). What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrenTuning Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 If he has a proven tune on there, he should be fine. Just put a resistor in place of the temp sensor so it doesn't throw a code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDiGreg617 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Stage 1 TDC legacy AT. Got 800 in tax return money. Spend it for me? Live in MA will come to shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrenTuning Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 PM sent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
programador23 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I buy a 2005 LGT 5EAT two months ago, and just discover I have a TD04 turbo so I thinking on go to VF52 turbo I already remove cat from uppipe and ordered a Invidia Catless Downpipe and 3" catback exhaust but we don't have goods tuner on Dominican Republic, there is any way I can use the VF52 for a month without problem until a tuner come to tune my car? Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrenTuning Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 I buy a 2005 LGT 5EAT two months ago, and just discover I have a TD04 turbo so I thinking on go to VF52 turbo I already remove cat from uppipe and ordered a Invidia Catless Downpipe and 3" catback exhaust but we don't have goods tuner on Dominican Republic, there is any way I can use the VF52 for a month without problem until a tuner come to tune my car? Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk I would hold off till you have a date set with a tuner. But if you must throw it on, loop the wastegate so you only run waste gate pressure. Another option is we could set you up with a Cobb AccessPort and tune you remotely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyLGT Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Tomei UEL headers/up, invidia catless dp, GFB 50/50 bov....do I need an e-tune from you or will I be okay with the stage 2 tune on the access port...keep in mind it's the version 1 AP. Lol Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaresmk Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Access Port maps are basic and not great kinda like oem tunes. they are an improvement but not tailored to your car but anyway with the headers u need a different tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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