StoplightAssassin Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I'm sorry it's just not going to happen. You can't modify a 3500lb sedan with 58/42 weight distribution and expect it to handle as well as a 52/48 f/r car that weighs ~2700lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I'm sorry it's just not going to happen. You can't modify a 3500lb sedan with 58/42 weight distribution and expect it to handle as well as a 52/48 f/r car that weighs ~2700lbs. This. Just not going to happen. I'll take a BRZ with a turbo, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 There is is, folks... Motortrends stats Motor Trend 2013 BRZ 0-60: 6.4 secs 0-90: 13.2 secs 45-65: 3.3 secs 1/4 mile: 14.9 secs @ 95.5 mph Braking 60-0 mph: 120 feet Lateral Acceleration: .90g Motor Trend 2008 WRX 0-60: 5.6 secs 0-90: 12.9 secs 45-65: 3.2 secs 1/4 mile: 14.3 secs @ 93.8 mph Braking 60-0 mph: 125 feet Lateral acceleration: .79g So it looks like other than the AWD launch of the WRX, the BRZ is right there with it and picks up speed through the quarter mile. Mid range acceleration is dead on. Driving dynamics should eat the WRX alive. As I mentioned many times before. Slow to some, but quick by the measurements... just not fast. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted March 23, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted March 23, 2012 There is is, folks... Motortrends stats Motor Trend 2013 BRZ 0-60: 6.4 secs 0-90: 13.2 secs 45-65: 3.3 secs 1/4 mile: 14.9 secs @ 95.5 mph Braking 60-0 mph: 120 feet Lateral Acceleration: .90g Motor Trend 2008 WRX 0-60: 5.6 secs 0-90: 12.9 secs 45-65: 3.2 secs 1/4 mile: 14.3 secs @ 93.8 mph Braking 60-0 mph: 125 feet Lateral acceleration: .79g So it looks like other than the AWD launch of the WRX, the BRZ is right there with it and picks up speed through the quarter mile. Mid range acceleration is dead on. Driving dynamics should eat the WRX alive. As I mentioned many times before. Slow to some, but quick by the measurements... just not fast. The inside line video that was just posted has very different numbers from that. Not to mention the potential for mods. The 08 wrx will get a nice jump in power for very little money in mods. Probably not much to do with the N/A BRZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 There is is, folks... Motortrends stats Motor Trend 2013 BRZ 0-60: 6.4 secs 0-90: 13.2 secs 45-65: 3.3 secs 1/4 mile: 14.9 secs @ 95.5 mph Braking 60-0 mph: 120 feet Lateral Acceleration: .90g Motor Trend 2008 WRX 0-60: 5.6 secs 0-90: 12.9 secs 45-65: 3.2 secs 1/4 mile: 14.3 secs @ 93.8 mph Braking 60-0 mph: 125 feet Lateral acceleration: .79g So it looks like other than the AWD launch of the WRX, the BRZ is right there with it and picks up speed through the quarter mile. Mid range acceleration is dead on. Driving dynamics should eat the WRX alive. As I mentioned many times before. Slow to some, but quick by the measurements... just not fast. That's a 2008 WRX though.. What's the 09 and up put out? I hope the trap speed is closer to 100.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 The inside line video that was just posted has very different numbers from that. Not to mention the potential for mods. The 08 wrx will get a nice jump in power for very little money in mods. Probably not much to do with the N/A BRZ. Inside line reported a 3500 RPM launch and trouble shifting into second. Motortrend used a 5000 RPM launch and no trouble in 2nd. 2 different launches... That's a 2008 WRX though.. What's the 09 and up put out? I hope the trap speed is closer to 100.. 2009+ wrx blows it out of the water in acceleration. It's no contest. My point from before was that it would be about as quick as the 2008 WRX other than 0-60. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmrdwn Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Subaru is selling the BRZ as an "Traditional Sports Car" from the era when American GI's returned from europe. Two door, small, light and good handling. Those attributes aren't appreciated by all. American's seem to be obsessed with horsepower and zero to sixty times. It's not being marketed as a "muscle car". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Why wouldn't we be obsessed by horsepower? The majority of the USA and Canada is flat, straight, country roads or highways. How else could the Mustang have survived 50+ years with a live axle? The only time I hit a curve in regular driving is the on ramp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmrdwn Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Why wouldn't we be obsessed by horsepower? The majority of the USA and Canada is flat, straight, country roads or highways. How else could the Mustang have survived 50+ years with a live axle? The only time I hit a curve in regular driving is the on ramp. The same can be said of speed....the speed limits are 70-80 max on the highway (and it's not stop and go), why have a car that does 155 when most roads you drive on average 45 mph speed limits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Since when has the speed limit stopped anyone from enjoying their car illegally on public roads and highways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Since when has the speed limit stopped anyone from enjoying their car illegally on public roads and highways? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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I Donated thefultonhow Posted March 24, 2012 I Donated Share Posted March 24, 2012 The only time I hit a curve in regular driving is the on ramp. That must suck. There are plenty of curves and hills where I live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmrdwn Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 That must suck. There are plenty of curves and hills where I live. They must live at the end of a straight one way dead end road. Must be similar to a drag strip. If that is your drive, you should get a muscle car with big meats on the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Thanks for the advice. I already have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmrdwn Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Thanks for the advice. I already have one. Perfect. That's not what the BRZ was intended to compete against or be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 When did I ever mention the BRZ? I know exactly what it is and isn't. I was responding to this: American's seem to be obsessed with horsepower and zero to sixty times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmrdwn Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 When did I ever mention the BRZ? I know exactly what it is and isn't. I was responding to this: Sorry guess I misunderstood something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasopoliS Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 FT 86 with TRD exhaust http://www.autoblog.com/2012/03/27/this-is-what-the-toyota-gt-86-sounds-like-with-a-trd-exhaust/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonwacker Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Faster BRZ to do without turbo or AWD: http://www.0-60mag.com/news/2012/03/cars-subaru-brz-sti-will-be-neither-turbocharged-nor-awd/ sorry...this forum practically blows goat nuts so im not always on here.Team Pony Express POSTED FROM MY COMPUTER USING A WEB BROWSER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 But if it has no turbo........... how can it be fast?!!?!? Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted March 28, 2012 I Donated Share Posted March 28, 2012 I'm skeptical that they will be able to wring 250 hp out of a NA 2.0 with such a low redline. Not even Honda could do that, and they had more revs to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtbimmer Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Faster BRZ to do without turbo or AWD: http://www.0-60mag.com/news/2012/03/cars-subaru-brz-sti-will-be-neither-turbocharged-nor-awd/ It's going to be a really fun car to drive. Im glad it's N/A. Between the weight and low center of gravity, RWD and 50 etra horses anyone would be grinning ear to ear driving this. Happy that Subaru did this purpose built design. It's a good change considering they killed the good looks of the Legacy with the 5th gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Wont be N/A for long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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