Viber Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 The 2012 Buick AWD Regal looks slick...at least it looks nice until the American design managers get their hands on it http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/firstdrive/2010/vauxhall.insignia.vxr/2010-insignia-actprf-vauxhall-fd-500-1.jpg http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/firstdrive/2010/vauxhall.insignia.vxr/2010-insignia-grp-vauxhall-fd-500-1.jpg http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/firstdrive/2010/vauxhall.insignia.vxr/2010-insignia-dsh-vauxhall-fd-500-1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest heightsgtltd Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Thats a vauxhall..are they basing the buick on that? I thought opel is going to be separate from GM now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 hrmm.. I still hold to my previous statement.. subaru's designers suck! look at that awesome car viber posted.. I'd drive its brains out. "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndas Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Me likey wagon! J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ in PA Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Thats a vauxhall..are they basing the buick on that? I thought opel is going to be separate from GM now Yeah, that's the new Opel Vectra (or Vauxhall Vectra in England). It was going to be the next gen Saturn Aura, before GM fell apart. I think they're still planning on bringing it over as a Buick, even with GM cutting ties to Opel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viber Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Yeah, that's the new Opel Vectra (or Vauxhall Vectra in England). It was going to be the next gen Saturn Aura, before GM fell apart. I think they're still planning on bringing it over as a Buick, even with GM cutting ties to Opel. It's actually the Opel/Vauxhall Insignia VXR, which is supposed to be the 2012 Buick Regal. It's intended to be a Audi S4 and BMW 335i competitor with Turbocharged 2.8-liter V6 putting out 321 hp; 321 lb-ft of torque And I cant lie, that car is gorgeous. Provided it doesn't get Americanized (Ruined), I'd seriously consider buying one. I dont think I've ever said the words "I'd buy a Buick" in my entire life. Lets hope GM gets a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 GM is getting a clue, but Subaru is losing theirs? What is the world coming to? Too bad, as a GM product, it will have a black box recorder that can be used as evidence against the owner, and built in OWNStar, ready-made surveillance. But it is sexy looking. A Buick Regal GS would be cool to look like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 GM is getting a clue, but Subaru is losing theirs? What is the world coming to? Too bad, as a GM product, it will have a black box recorder that can be used as evidence against the owner, and built in OWNStar, ready-made surveillance. But it is sexy looking. A Buick Regal GS would be cool to look like that. shortest... iwss post.... ever.. :lol: srsly tho, maybe theres only so many "clues" to go around?? "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest heightsgtltd Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 GM is getting a clue, but Subaru is losing theirs? What is the world coming to? Too bad, as a GM product, it will have a black box recorder that can be used as evidence against the owner, and built in OWNStar, ready-made surveillance. But it is sexy looking. A Buick Regal GS would be cool to look like that. Uh oh, someone get the tin foil hats out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Uh oh, someone get the tin foil hats out you should research those black boxes.. with every step towards surveillance we lose our freedoms and liberties. Theres no reason for those devices. that being said.. my truck has onstar. I dunno if it works. I assume it does. what they would know about me if they looked at that tho.. is that my truck doesn't move all that often. "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ in PA Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 It's actually the Opel/Vauxhall Insignia VXR, which is supposed to be the 2012 Buick Regal. Indeed, my bad, I forgot it was called the Insignia! But it was intended to become the Saturn Aura here before GM decided to axe the Saturn division. It's a nice looking car, but I will not buy a GM car, just based on principle. It's bad enough I have to involuntarily subsidize the company because the government rewarded them for bad management with a taxpayer funded bailout. Plus, I'm not happy with the mismangement of the Saturn division, which had potential when it was an independent subsidiary. I miss my reliable, durable Spring Hill built Saturn SL2 with its dent resistant plastic doors and fenders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherWarrior Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 Indeed, my bad, I forgot it was called the Insignia! But it was intended to become the Saturn Aura here before GM decided to axe the Saturn division. It's a nice looking car, but I will not buy a GM car, just based on principle. It's bad enough I have to involuntarily subsidize the company because the government rewarded them for bad management with a taxpayer funded bailout. Plus, I'm not happy with the mismangement of the Saturn division, which had potential when it was an independent subsidiary. I miss my reliable, durable Spring Hill built Saturn SL2 with its dent resistant plastic doors and fenders! No offense, but can we all get a little back on the target focus of the thread...helping Subaru (even if they aren't even really watching the thread) design a better Legacy...especially if it uses the new 2010 platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viber Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 No offense, but can we all get a little back on the target focus of the thread...helping Subaru (even if they aren't even really watching the thread) design a better Legacy...especially if it uses the new 2010 platform. If Subaru doesnt get the hint by now, its a lost cause. Make a car that doesnt look like ass on the outside, and isnt cheap as hell on the inside. Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ in PA Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 My suggestion to Subaru: make the Legacy look more like this! http://www.autofans.us/images/2009%20Chicago%20Auto%20Show/Volkswagen%20CC%20Gold%20Coast%201.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I'm not sure I dig the new VW honestly.. it looks like a pickup truck from the front. its also far too large a car. they look like 7 series as far as road presence.. way too much. "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ in PA Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I'm not sure I dig the new VW honestly.. it looks like a pickup truck from the front. Moreso than the 2010 Legacy? I think that kind of looks like a truck! its also far too large a car. they look like 7 series as far as road presence.. way too much. Perhaps, though it shows you can have "road presence" without a lot of funky, exaggerated proportions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperhawkLGT Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Love the CC, but I love the Mercedes the stole the design from more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 good points MJ. but as a standalone.. I dont really like the new VW either. "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viber Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Love the CC, but I love the Mercedes the stole the design from more. Hyundai is also going that route with the 2011 Sonata. And guess what, it has push button smart key technology too. Soooo, when is Subaru going to get the memo that it is 2009 http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/09/07_hyundai_sonata_011.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 in 2015. "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARUCAN. Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 MY ANSWER FOR ALL: 2010 LEGACY JDM/EURO! PIC AVAILABLE HERE: http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:sCkCvXSqzKoLlM:http://www.goautosday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/2010-Subaru-Legacy-Europe-4-1024x625.jpghttp://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:6HRDy3X-31UAFM:http://www.babodream.co.kr/files/attach/images/1500/683/028/001/2010-Subaru-Legacy-Europe-3.jpghttp://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:0SPjY7e3FlqSrM:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/SnwpebFL9fI/AAAAAAAB82I/VSZZRySykzg/s800/2010-Subaru-Legacy-Europe-0.jpg WEBSITE available HERE: http://www.subaru-global.com/10legacy.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARUCAN. Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 BY the WAY Subaru got the memo elsewhere besides N.America, but it's still not there yet compared to the 2011 Sonata and Passat CC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperhawkLGT Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Euro is better, but not much. It's makes that body style look as good as it can, which still isn't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 murder the giant fender flares and we'll talk about the euro model. I mean what are they doing robbing the idea from Toyota's Tacoma? "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stransky Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I like the new legacy but with the window framed doors I am missing one detail and that is B and C pillars in high gloss black instead of black matte plastic. The same style as on BMW Shadowline option or Lexus IS200. This will make the pillars to blend with the windows/glass surface and it will look much more exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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