mwiener2 Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 are you entering an SPL competition? Why do you need that much power? I have about 400w rms between my sub and 4 channel and it can go louder than you can bare and is still crystal clear at that volume too.... actually, i have Db measurement somewhere. i'll try and find it My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 are you entering an SPL competition? Why do you need that much power? I have about 400w rms between my sub and 4 channel and it can go louder than you can bare and is still crystal clear at that volume too.... actually, i have Db measurement somewhere. i'll try and find it Lol, I am running two 12" Kicker L7's among other things. The amp is from my old setup in another car where I was running two 15" L7's . I like my music loud at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 I can't find the post with the dB measurments in it. I think it was like 115dB with teh car off and 118dB with it on. 130 and 132 also stick out in my mind, but that seems too high That's full range sound too, not tones or just bass. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 I can't find the post with the dB measurments in it. I think it was like 115dB with teh car off and 118dB with it on. 130 and 132 also stick out in my mind, but that seems too high That's full range sound too, not tones or just bass. I wish I had a measurement on the 15" setup, im sure it was close to 140db. You could hardly sit in the car on low notes with the bass at full tilt. It was more of the "watch this" type of setup. Lol now days I hardly even drive with the radio on. My box spent about 2-3 months on the garage floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I was in Walmart today. The EverStart 35N 640 CCA was $72. My battery is not dead , but cranks like an old man in hard weather. I usually wait for them to die but this time I may be proactive. 50 months old & 70K miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepich Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I mail ordered the Deka ETX16L (all weather version) which is the exact same as the Braille "All-Season" at half the cost. It even came with free shipping. The only thing I had to do was source the brass posts. I got mine here: http://products.kylealbright.com/product_info.php/cPath/31/products_id/34?osCsid=d0de851669054cb61382181df7ea081b Get the brass connector posts here: http://www.odysseybatteries.com/accessories.htm scroll down to "SAE Automotive Terminals". Sorry, I don't remember the price. In the end, it dropped 20lbs off the front of the car in 10 minutes and it has been perfect for 18 months now. I could feel the difference on turn-in immediately. I found this one: http://www.batterymart.com/p-Big-Crank-ETX16L-Battery.html Big Crank battery. Everytime I search Deka it returns big crank. It this the same battery? label is different.. But it says manufacture by Deka.. Hug? There are no bad people, just differeent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 "Premium quality absorbed glass mat technology (AGM) is ideal for ATVs, motorcycles, personal watercraft, & snowmobiles" yeah, that's the battery for you My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepich Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 "Premium quality absorbed glass mat technology (AGM) is ideal for ATVs, motorcycles, personal watercraft, & snowmobiles" yeah, that's the battery for you I do not need a big battery :-)) I drive my LGT like a motorcycle anyway:-) So, BigCrank== Deka?? There are no bad people, just differeent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 it's rated at 230CCA.... that will barely turn the motor over when it's 50 out My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepich Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 This battery has the same rating (Did not check it though) as odyssey 680, about 550 CCA for a first 5 second. Which is more then enough for me. I'll buy one when I confirm that 5 sec CCA .. There are no bad people, just differeent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 so you're gonna bank on the car NEVER EVER needing more than 5 sec worth of cranking? i hope you NEVER EVER use lights or radio or ANYTHING before trying to restart the car My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepich Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 So far, for 3 years - never used more than 2 sec of cranking.. As for a lights and radio.. it still should be enough, if it is really have 550 CCA for a 5 sec, right? Same as "normal" battery has for a 30 sec.. There are no bad people, just differeent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepich Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I am really like the idea of easy way to get 25 pounds off from a front of the car.. There are no bad people, just differeent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 If these batteries were just as good as a full size battery, then we'd see alot more of them. In this eco friendly era, shaving weight is increasing MPG. So if these dry cell superlightweight batteries were good for anythign other than dragstrip use.... you'd see them used that way, but you don't My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepich Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Heh.. You're braking my dream.. But i agree :-)) Anyway, I'll get something lighther. may be not that much. It should be some benefits from living in GA climat.. There are no bad people, just differeent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdubs Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I finally gave in. I was so sick of the crappy stock battery I bought the Walmart Maxx with more CCA. Problem solved, the car operates 100% better in the cold now. Can't go wrong for $72. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underpowerd Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 i went with meier's rec, the $80, 28 lb, 495 CCA diehard 51, working great; weight just a little bonus in my case; the ease of working in that corner with my setup (fmic) has gone from ugh to ooh. oem in the 5eat is 490 CCA. i'd recommend that anyone considering this particular route to go with the 'reversed' model, as i noticed the terminals are opposite for the leggy when i got home. i simply flipped it in backwards and it sits/clears/reaches the cables just fine, but i imagine there are ppl who wouldn't be able to live like that, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYtoVT Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 subscribe. I'll soon need to get 1 for both my wagons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepich Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Stock is 490 CCA? Was not thinking it is that low. So, 300CCA will work for me. 18lb, BigCrank XLT18. There are no bad people, just differeent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underpowerd Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 ^ 05 5eat is 490 (at least by the label). i think i noticed earlier in this thread the MT is even lower iirc, like 465 or something. i wanted something with as much punch as stock, but i'm very good about not using accessories off ignition, so i didn't mind a little drop in size/weight; it really helps me with space and isn't ridiculously small in the event of an emergency -- my gut tells me even though it's somewhat smaller, the new diehard will outperform the 5 y/o tired ass stocker in any event. i'm just curious (my battery education was earned almost exclusively in these 7 pages, ): how do you figure you can go so low on the amps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyWilly Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 My stock battery is only 2.5 years old but the car wouldnt start last night. Not started for 4 days and 15 degrees = dead. Think I will go with the Duralast only cause Autozone is walking distance to my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepich Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 how do you figure you can go so low on the amps? There are few, but I thibnk it is enouhg for me to make such decision: 1. people are using such small batteries, like Braille, oddyssey 670, etc. They crank hi-comp V6 engines with them. 2. I never listen music while engine is off. Same for the lights. 3. Car is always stays in garage during a night. 4. never needed to cranck longer than 1-2 sek. 5.These batteries usually has more then 450 CCA for a first 3-5 seconds, which should be enough for me. 6. I never take LGT far away from home, like to travel, go to a mountains, etc. this is my DD car, 5 miles to work.. This minimises a loss if one cold day battery won't crank. 7. I live in a hot Atlanta (Hm.. today is 18F!) I know my risks, but taking 25 pound off from the car will overcome it. Going to Stage 2 is a risk too, right? risking for much more than dead battery here, most of us.. For 1-2 sek faster runs? There are no bad people, just differeent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praedet Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Kinetik HC 1400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 You guys are freaking crazy Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 After this thread can someone make one on which set of valve stem caps are best? I'm really torn. OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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