What bike do you like?

[hutru01]

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I know, I am sure you know where I am coming from.....

 

Like this crap right here

 

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[05GT Guru]

Lol too bad im at work and cant see it. I have seen quite a few bike wrecks actually, there a place around here where everyone races called hwy 100. Me and a friend were in his 98 z28 just crusing at 35mph, all of the sudden a bike just flys by doin over 100mph he was probably about 6 inchs away from his car when he passed us, about 1 mile up the road there he laid, he wasnt wearing a helmet and he wasnt moving. We called an ambulance but i could already tell he was dead. he had alohol in his blood aswell, the news report said. My uncle was also on the freeway when he wiped out and a lady in a escort ran over both his legs, my dad also had the skin missing from his forarms for a while. I know accidents happen with bikes, but im not gonna let that scare me.

[c-lo]

and the truth about most motorcycle accidents is that its some dumbass person in a car who didnt see the biker because they dont check good enough. I understand that sportsbikes are extremely fast, dont think im goin to be treating this like a toy, i understand the dangers.

 

Even though this was exactly what happened to me, I don't agree that "most" accidents are the other guys fault.

 

regardless, the point that we were trying to make was that you might want to consider something a little less powerful than a 1000cc. This is not "pissing contest". no one is doubting your ability to ride a dirt bike nor a street bike. You are more capable of handling a street bike than most guys who've never been on either.

 

read the threads on here and you'll find out many have had bikes and have good input and will prescribe it when given the chance.

[CapnJack]

I've always been a fan of the Suzuki Bandit.

The Bandit 1200 is a bored, detuned, naked version of the GSX-R1100.

The 600 is based off the old GSX-F(Katana)

Both bikes are very capable and the insurance won't kill you on them like they will on a type "R" bike.

 

The SV is also a very nice bike and has been mentioned above.

[05GT Guru]

Yeah i was looking at a SV750 and SV1000s aswell, only because you can get a 05+ with under 10kmiles for 4grand. But i dont plan on having insurance on my bike. The SVs are nice and the yamaha yz6 is also another nice alternative to the R6

[NewLegGT67]

First of all, i just wanna say i didnt ask for your thoughts on what sizre bike i should ride. I gave you 4 bikes and asked what one would you choose and why, almost none of you actually did what i asked and answered the question. I know what the hp rating is on my dads 650 compard to a sportsbike, i know what they can do i have had many many friends who own them. I know im a novice rider when it comes to the street, i didnt ask for your opinons on comparing a 600 to a 1000. So thank you all for not helping at all.

 

I was hoping to get the opinon of people who actually rode these bikes or some of them and what they did and didnt like compared to other bikes, the truth is none of you acutally know me and or what im capable of and the truth about most motorcycle accidents is that its some dumbass person in a car who didnt see the biker because they dont check good enough. I understand that sportsbikes are extremely fast, dont think im goin to be treating this like a toy, i understand the dangers.

 

When i rode my friends GSXR1000 i thought it was one of the most amazing feelings, to answer someones question. And he is selling his bike so that will probably be the one i buy. Just for the simple fact its a 03 GSX1000 with 11kmiles for 3500

 

That '03 GSXR1000 sounds like a great deal plus it's good to by used for your first street bike. Also, you know the owner so you know the bike has been taken care of. Why is he/she selling for so cheap?

 

Have fun and be safe. Please, wear a helmet and gear. Even if it's 100 degrees.

[05GT Guru]

For 1 because im a friend, and 2 because it was dropped once, i was there when it happened. It wasnt even a full drop, it was caught but still hit the ground a little, there is 1 scratch and the left blinker broke, so no the blinker is held on with some plexi glass. He coudl still probably get 5500-6500 for a bike that year and those miles with the scratch. I had a daughter 6 months ago, the only time i plan on using the bike is mainly for work, which is a 45minute drive on the freeway so there will be a helmet and kevlar coat used. I will drive it when its nice and i dont have the baby but shes usually with me on weekends whenever we go anywhere

[IwannaSportSedan]

First of all, i just wanna say i didnt ask for your thoughts on what sizre bike i should ride. I gave you 4 bikes and asked what one would you choose and why, almost none of you actually did what i asked and answered the question. I know what the hp rating is on my dads 650 compard to a sportsbike, i know what they can do i have had many many friends who own them. I know im a novice rider when it comes to the street, i didnt ask for your opinons on comparing a 600 to a 1000. So thank you all for not helping at all.

 

If those are your four options, buy none of them. Your attitude will get you killed.

 

I was hoping to get the opinon of people who actually rode these bikes or some of them and what they did and didnt like compared to other bikes, the truth is none of you acutally know me and or what im capable of and the truth about most motorcycle accidents is that its some dumbass person in a car who didnt see the biker because they dont check good enough. I understand that sportsbikes are extremely fast, dont think im goin to be treating this like a toy, i understand the dangers.

 

I pray for your family. I don't have to know what you are capable of. You aren't super human, and what you are saying shows that you have NO FREAKIN' IDEA WHAT YOU ARE GETTING YOURSELF INTO. I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt before. Your comments here show you don't deserve that.

 

I don't think you have the first clue what the dangers are. You wouldn't say what you have said if you did. You broadcast your attitude through your language, and it isn't at all difficult to pick up on.

 

Most motorcycle accidents are single-vehicle accidents. That means that the motorcyclist just CRASHED, with no help from anyone else.

 

Most multi-vehicle accidents are from other vehicles hitting unseen motorcycles, but some of those are because motorcyclists shirked the rules of the road, and common sense, and made themselves vulnerable to car drivers who can't react as fast as a motorcycle can get in their way.

 

Not only that, but some multi-vehicle accidents are caused by motorcyclists. Not all are the fault of car drivers.

 

I never said you would treat a motorcycle as a toy. The truth is, you should treat it like a weapon, because that is what it can be, it has the potential to hurt and kill people VERY easily, most likely yourself.

 

Non-motorcyclist people don't refer to them as "donorcycles" for no reason. Incidence of injury are MUCH more likely to a motorcycle rider.

 

When i rode my friends GSXR1000 i thought it was one of the most amazing feelings, to answer someones question. And he is selling his bike so that will probably be the one i buy. Just for the simple fact its a 03 GSX1000 with 11kmiles for 3500

 

It is an amazing feeling. I know that feeling, and that is why I own a motorcycle despite all the warnings I have given.

 

But that amazing feeling has a price. It either costs extreme care, a willful acceptance of a learning curve, and caution, and self-realization that you aren't invincible. You don't show that you have that attitude.

 

Someone with the right attitude knows that means not starting out on a bike with 150hp and ~4 square inches of contact patch for the rear tire. The front tire doesn't count, if it is off the ground, and a GSX-R will lift that tire just by thinking about it.

 

Without that attitude in place, it will very likely cost you your health or even your life. It will cost your wife her husband, it will cost your daughter her father.

 

Don't be a moron, for their sake. Your gratification is not worth their loss. Learn first, you'll still enjoy it, and the 1000cc bikes will still be around when you are ready for one.

 

An ~80hp SV650 is just as much of a rush at legal speeds as a GSX-R, and it is much easier to handle. You aren't ready for the track on a bike, anyway.

 

I ride a very similar bike to an SV, with less power, and it is still as much of a thrill to ride as any of the bigger bikes I have ever ridden. It just isn't scary. I know you think you are all big and bad, and everything, but a 1000cc will scare the bat crap out of you before it hurts or kills you.

 

I have been down. I will probably be down again someday. I don't have any desire to make that happen faster.

 

There are only two kinds of riders. Those who have been down, and those who will be down. You had better have the right gear, a good helmet, and full protective armored one or two piece suit before you even consider writing a check for a sport bike like you are looking at.

 

You turning yourself into a grease-spot on the road makes no real difference to my life. But I hate hearing about widows and fatherless children, and parents having to bury their adult children, in the news paper who were victims of their husband/father/son being a moron. Husband and Father both mean RESPONSIBILITY. Show some.

[05GT Guru]

Once again you post as if you know me and whats goin to happen. You say with my attitude i will be dead and my daughter will be fatherless. I aksed a simple question, which of these 4 bikes do you like and why. I DID NOT ask for your opinon about the size i shoudl get and or why. Stop telling me what i should do and how of a danger i will be. If you dont have anything to say about the 4 bikes dont post on this thread. I understand your concern, quite a few of my friends started on 1000ccs as first bikes and i have been ridign alot longer than them when they got there bikes. I dont think you understand me when i say im not interested in your outlook on the size of the bike, im not being ignorant, in fact you are by telling someone you dont know a damn thing about what they should do and how they are and what they can handle. Thanks for the concern but i dont need it from you. But thanks for the lecture person who i dont know

[Metal2You]

I agree. We have a dead man walking here. 1000CC is not the right choice for anyone's first street bike. End of story. The fact that you are ignoring everybody's warnings shows us just how little you care to understand the situation.

[05GT Guru]

Untrue, its just im goin to watch and learn and listen from people i actually know who are my close friends who started with 1000 bikes and are all alive and doin great over some kids on the internet who i dont know. All i did was ask a question and only 2 people out of 3 pages actually answered what i asked. I will be driving my dads KLR650 until i get my liscense, but like everyone said you cant compare that to a sport bike and i agree. Like i said in the past posts, dont post on this thread about how you feel about what size i should get, it was a simple question but apparently the legacy forums cant even follow simple directions, its just post after post of a different person telling me what I didnt ask for.

[hutru01]

I think its because some of us do care about the well being of others (regardless of whether you asked for it).

 

Had you asked this on a bike forum, your answers might have been a little more straight forward.

 

I will tell you from experience, this is not your average forum.

[05GT Guru]

I know you guys do, and i said thank for the concern a few posts back, but now there are just kids coming in here and posting about how i shouldnt get a 1000. Its ok for some people to be concerned, but i asked what i asked and like i said there are 2 posts that say which of those bikes to get and 3 pages of people telling me what i didnt ask to hear.

Just lock this thread i will go ask it on a bike forum

[hutru01]

^ Honestly, thats probably your better bet. Good luck with it man.

[kober1]

Yeah I could care less what you get (I like the R1 and the Honda personally, from an owner of an R6). But seriosuly if you are only getting the 1000 for your 45 minute, freeway ride to work and back, you are a f*cking idiot. I don't care where you live, there will be a lot more cars on the road on a comute to work and you won't be able to open her up like it was meant to be used and like you will want to. Plus since everyone is an a**hole driving in the mornings and on their way home from work, you will most likly get cut off, then get pissed off and do something stupid.

 

Regaurdless of what kind of person you are owning a 1000 cc bike as a comuter bike is stupid and will eventually cause you to do something stupid (and the morning rushhour is not the time you want to do that).

 

The thing is that with all my cars and my bike, when you are just crusing and then a lane opens up and you start to throttle it, it is very hard for me not to take it high and hard into the rev range. Doing that in an opening it traffic is just asking for it. And if you don't do that, you are just wasting the potential of the bike, at least a 600 would be just as nice in those conditions.

[spongemonster]

If you can't decide on a 1000 and have to ask it's too soon for one. We come down hard on guys like you because we've all seen guys with cocky I can ride anything attitudes take dirt naps. A sportbikes is quite possibly the worst thing for a freeway work commute you could buy. Go ahead buy any of those bikes but your ego can and will kill you if you don't smarten the hell up.

[05GT Guru]

My 45minute freeway ride to work is at 10am, i work 10-7, the freeway is pretty clear to and from work, rush hour ends at 8:30 or 9 around here and at 6 in the evenings. I have driven r6s but never a r1 and like i said the GSXr1000, but not the others, i was hoping that there were some people on here who had driven a couple so i could better compare them.

 

So if i ask which bike you guys would take that means im not ready for a sportbike, your a retard, its thinking like that which explains why you drive a 2.5i

[spongemonster]

Ok I suggest a Ducati 1098R. I know it's not on your list but if you insist on big fast things then sure. All of those bikes are so very similar an inexperienced rider like yourself would be better off picking the one with the prettiest colours if you still insist you know best.

[05GT Guru]

lol, i have been doin alot of reading on them lately and handleing, and power ranges they do have differences, like the r1 has alot of top end but lacks a little at lower speeds. The suzuki seems to have the best power range, but the kawasaki makes the most power outright at a whooping 173hp. I was really looking for opinons from a drivers perspective, not kids who are too scared to drive them, but thanks for your input. Thats why im just gonna sign up to a bike forum for these questions, thanks to all that helped or tried to atleast

[spongemonster]

Heh, see where I'm from we don't ride interstates. Few people ride litre bikes because they're just not necessary. I have ridden those bikes and they are a hoot. Really though even with magazines saying they're different you probably wouldn't notice. It's about time and experience not just twisting the throttle and hanging on for dear life. If you really do want a 1000 and no one can talk you out of it then at least buy and wear as much protective gear as possible.

[05GT Guru]

Yeah i have gear already, i have my temps now and imriding my dads KLR650 around when he doesnt want to, luckly for me hes out off on vacations alot these days. When i take that bike to work i wear gear

[spongemonster]

Good, that's the kinda thing I like to hear. I've seen a few too many road crayons marking up the local roads lately. Gives the rest of us a bad name when they decide to sample the rhubarb and piss off the local LEO's and residents. Heh, I can't resist mentioning that some of the fastest riders around these parts are riding the slowest bikes. Skills will be the best thing you can possibly get, they'll keep you alive longer.

[bigb3630123]

2 weeks ago....... kid traded in his car for a GSXR 750 and 2 days later lost control and drove it into a telephone pole 2 miles from my house..... head and body went in different directions. If you are in first or second gear and sneeze hard you could put the tire in the sky.

[spongemonster]

Inexperience (yes dirt sort of counts but you'll soon find out how little) can kill you even on a scooter, it's just things happen faster on a faster bike which is much less forgiving.

[Montana]

Geez, most of the posts sound like they're from my father! I've been commuting by bike since forever, that's a 1200cc as my avatar, it's a 2000. You want the voice of experience? Here:

 

Pick the bike that fits you the best. This means seat height and flat footed, reach out to the grips, and if you have to lean far down, you've got too much weight on your wrists and that long of a commute will kill your nerves, or if you use a keyboard at work you will simply hate that low riding position. The SV models can have risers added, seats and pegs can be changed, consider these options if you like a bike that doesn't fit well.

 

How much will you carry every day, and how do you intend to carry it? You'll get tired of a backpack, tankbags are like manpurses, they just suck and interfere with your line of sight and good handling, look for a bike that has a tailbag option (locking if possible, helmet-sized is nice) and/or narrow "city cases" and if you decided you need sidecases, check the widths of the bikes, you'll have to fit through slots in traffic pretty often. Always carry raingear unless you wear waterproof textiles.

 

What's your weather like? See my windshield? Try riding through Montana and not getting caught in rain. Now consider I'm sometimes the only vehicle on two-lanes of I-90 for three miles at a stretch. Will you be trying to ride through the wheel-splash coming off the semi in the lane next to you? That determines how much fairing to look for, and how tall a windshield or sportshield to get, or have fitted. Customization is your friend.

 

Where will you park? Get something light enough to maneuver around the parking spots and gas station pumps crowded with cars. Can you manhandle the bike? It's embarrassing to need help to back out of a parking spot that is downhill pointing in.

 

How's the lighting? Tiny bullet lights look cool but suck if you ride home in the dark. Be seen, be safe. Get extra driving lights installed.

 

Can you fix it yourself? Things fall off or slip out of adjustment. How hard is it to pull off a wheel for a flat tire? You'd rather haul a tire off for repair than have someone come haul the bike, they get damaged that way.

 

Who's the best dealer? That will drive the decision for the brand you chose. If you can't get good service or parts, you'll have lots of down days. My local BMW service guy tells me, "You're supposed to have more than one bike so you have something to ride while this one is in the shop." No, I bought a BMW thinking it would be reliable. Just fix it and get it back to me ASAP, or get in the friggin' parts or whatever.

 

Check the wheel base and the headstock specs: longer front end angles (rake and trail) mean better handling at speeds and under heavy loads, squirrelly in parking lots; shorter steering head angles mean nimble but slightly twitchy handling characteristics. Think of a shopping cart Vs a dolly.

 

Ride with a space cushion, don't be stupid, get insurance (it's not for the bike, it's to protect you from losing all your other assets). Take the basic MSF class, then take the ERC (experienced class) on your own bike. Take it again next year. Take it every time you get a different bike.