VTGT Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hmm I may pick up a slightly used one of these in 2010 Too bad my 2005 still only has 20k miles.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camber Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 It's kinda hard to say where hi-po sedans will go with the new CAFE rules on the horizon. I hope Subaru sticks to its guns and keeps churning out sporty cars but you never know. It looks like alot of the bigger cars are either getting downsized or smaller engines. Maybe, Subaru will think a little bit harder about growing the Legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickdrift Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 You realize I'm taking about the aspect ratio between the sidewall and the part of the tire that contacts the road? Yeah huh. Spec B's and GT's share the same sidewall height, which should be roughtly 3.8" tall. The LGT wears a 215/45R17 and the sB wears a 215/45R18, dumb but true. We should have been given 215/40R18's, and our sidewalls would have been only 3.4" tall. But I suspect SOA assumed that would make the sB ride too rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visionhu Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 What do you think guys? I'm in love Hope it is not a repost http://www.subaru.jp/as2008/e_car/details/details7.html http://carview-img01.bmcdn.jp/cvmaterials//tas/2008/take_car/subaru_legacy_b4/05_l.jpg http://carview-img01.bmcdn.jp/cvmaterials//tas/2008/take_car/subaru_legacy_b4/13_l.jpg http://carview-img01.bmcdn.jp/cvmaterials//tas/2008/take_car/subaru_legacy_b4/08_l.jpg http://carview-img01.bmcdn.jp/cvmaterials//tas/2008/take_car/subaru_legacy_b4/12_l.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/trev2/06_l543.jpg http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/trev2/01_l12.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubLGTaru Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 It's drop dead sexy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gire Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 :drool: I'll take the brake and wheel package... as soon as I win the lottery of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractorcrusher Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Looks pretty nice, but the Escalade-looking fender holes are a bit pointless... I'm digging the quad exhaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubLGTaru Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I love the front of the car, it's perfect IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanger Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I'll soooooo take one in GRP! ○ ○ ○ Instagram: itshangertime :spin: ○ ○ ○ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praedet Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Threads merged... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigInALegacy Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I'm diggin the carbon fiber trim and the push-button STi start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 From a guy that says he works at a dealer: pricing will be $38k base and almost $45k with all the goodies. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/images/smilies/banana.gif And yes, I work at a dealer. Preliminary info has already been sent to us. Techs will be going to new model update training in march. a newer design engine that they are being a bit shady about releasing details about at this time. But it is a boosted 4 as far as I can tell, although, a boosted h6 is not out of the question, as the dimensions of this car are bigger than current legacys, 3.5" longer and 1.75" wider. I would never joke about my next car. Its part of the reason I sold my STi. So I could start saving my pennies, and not be tempted to keep moddin it. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camber Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Yeah huh. Spec B's and GT's share the same sidewall height, which should be roughtly 3.8" tall. The LGT wears a 215/45R17 and the sB wears a 215/45R18, dumb but true. We should have been given 215/40R18's, and our sidewalls would have been only 3.4" tall. But I suspect SOA assumed that would make the sB ride too rough. D'oh... My bad...... Well, at least I can admit when I'm wrong. Unlike like some other people around here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camber Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 From a guy that says he works at a dealer: People, at the dealership always seem like the last people that know anything. There were rumours that a tuned by STI legacy was supposed to be hitting North America that was supposed to be shown at SEMA. However, nothing happened and alot of reputable people chimed in on that thread.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 People, at the dealership always seem like the last people that know anything. There were rumours that a tuned by STI legacy was supposed to be hitting North America that was supposed to be shown at SEMA. However, nothing happened and alot of reputable people chimed in on that thread.. Well Debbie Downer, I am going to remain hopeful. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pengwin Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 is that a wiper on the rear windshield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camber Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Well Debbie Downer, I am going to remain hopeful. Hey now! I'm hoping that we get a super Legacy model in North America. Personally, I just don't think it will be during the bl/bp generation of models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Hey now! I'm hoping that we get a super Legacy model in North America. Personally, I just don't think it will be during the bl/bp generation of models. JK buddy. I need to get another 3 or 4 years out of my current LGT (hopefully on the same block!) before I buy my next one. I would just prefer it come out a year before I buy so others can get first crack at experimenting on the new motor and suspension. I also want Subaru to get all the bugs out. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenc544 Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 http://carview-img01.bmcdn.jp/cvmaterials//tas/2008/take_car/subaru_legacy_b4/05_l.jpg OK, functional fender vent is overdone but I can live with it, but fake ones are just lame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paycer Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 ^That fender vent pictured has honeycombed shaped holes that look awfully filled up with plastic! Unless the leading edge of the bottom set of honeycombs is punched out, we've gone some pretty ghey, decorative "vents" going on there..... I'm with chenc though, if there are holes punched through the fender creating real vents I might be cool with it. Or rather the engine might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William WRX Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 About five months ago I decided to get a new car after five years of driving a Ford Escort, and my wife's old Outback. After doing the reaserch, I ended up with two contenders. The LGT (no Spec B in PR) and a G35. After driving both and doing the math I bought a G35S. Main reasons were Luxury Appointments in the G, looks and power (I'm sure a modded Legacy is faster than the G, but in this point of my life I don't have the time or desire to be modding cars). Sure the G35 was more expensive, but it included more of the stuff I wanted. Now if the LGT came with HID's, 18" wheels with real tires, A real sound system, better interior materials, and about 280 Hp's, I would have gotten the Leggy. BTW If Subaru decides to make al LSTi I'll buy one in a sec. I love Subarus. William Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camber Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 An unmodded Legact GT is faster in most aceleration tests then then any year G35/37. Unfortunately, as the G has picked up power it's gain a significant bit of weight which kills performance. Nissan has said they are looking at minimum reductions of 15% weight across all their next generation models.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenc544 Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 Nissan has said they are looking at minimum reductions of 15% weight across all their next generation models.. I read that too, if they can do that I will be very impressed. 15% of ~3600 lb car like G35x is 540 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacks GT Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Good lord, that is under-rated. A twin scroll 2.5 liter making only 276hp and 253 lb.ft. That should be capable of 335hp and 300+ lb.ft. with nothing more than an ECU tune, and a good down-pipe. Ok... let's break this down, what is different and the same as the Spec B we already get, and things that the WRX STI has. USDM Spec B -- USDM WRX STI -- Legacy S concept. 2.5 turbo -- same -- same, plus twin scroll, but that is no extra parts, just different. 6MT, no DCCD -- 6MT DCCD -- 6MT no DCCD (but should) subaru brakes -- Brembo 4-piston -- Brembo 6-piston Bilsteins -- Bilsteins -- Bilsteins and pinks (but then so do all JDM STI vehicles) Leather -- Leather optional -- Leather cast wheels -- forged BBS optional -- forged BBS NAV standard -- NAV optional -- NAV not present, but probably optional ~34999 -- ~34999 (+4k for options) -- Unknown for US market. Other than some carbon trim pieces from the STI accessory catalog, they are fairly closely matched. Also, a US model would probably not get the twin-scroll, so standard 2.5 GT engine, maybe STI turbo and intake setup. It would probably gain a sunroof, also, since every other sedan has it besides the 2.5i base and SE. Less cost to put sunroof roof skins and headliners in everything... and we know how Subaru loves option choices. Spec B is overpriced for it's equipment. The Legacy S loses the nav from that, so minus 2k. Adds brakes and wheels. +2k back in (net, considering part swap, not addition) Maybe SPT exhaust and intake standard, so +1K more. I could easily see an STI-branded Legacy S in the US market for 36k, if the Spec B were to move down to $32k fully equipped, with Nav optional, and full color choice. (it would be moved down from it's top-of-line market position anyway) GT Limited similarly moving down below $28k well equipped, maybe even ~26k, if we were really lucky. The Forester thread mentions something besides the Forester being shown at Detroit. Maybe it is a Legacy S for the US market... but somehow I am not holding my breath. But if this car does arrive north of 40k, it will only continue subaru's streak of missing the mark. The Legacy, as great of a car as I think it is, cannot compete with the 335i and G35x Touring or 6MT sport above 40k. It doesn't have enough interior amenities, and it is still a turbo 4, which has a certain market perception. The Legacy S is what the Spec B should be, where the Spec B is priced. The Spec B is what $30-32k should be buying, and the 2.5 GT Limited is getting rebated anyway, so why not price it well below 30k, closer to $25-27k. Sidebar: The Mitsubishi Evo GSR just got official. 33k. (this is the one WITHOUT the big time transmission. Three 2000$ option packages, a 400$ disc changer, and a 400$ aluminum shifter, e-brake and leather boot package. The thing tops out north of $42K. FOR A HOPPED UP ECONOMY CAR!!! The STI is not as bad, but probably close enough. The economy is not headed in that direction. consumer debt is getting out of hand, and the market is contracting. I can't think that the market is going to continue to support $30k and headed to $40k as the median price for average to somewhat nice cars. There is certainly no way this Legacy S is $60k USD. It wouldn't sell ten units. It would have a hard time above $37k, no matter how sweet I think it is. Take a look at Mazdaspeed6 rebates to sell the remaining units. There may even be a 2007 Spec B left-over on the Ramsey Subaru lot in Des Moines, and it was marked down to ~$32k last time I saw it. You, my friend need to go get a job at SOA and sort hem out lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psi365 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Hey now! I'm hoping that we get a super Legacy model in North America. Personally, I just don't think it will be during the bl/bp generation of models. I kiind of disagree with you on this. Being the fact this is about the end of this body LGT its very possible they would make a LSTi. My reasoning is that they could easily push out a few hundred extra cars by making it. A lot of manufacturers have been know to come out with special editions at the end of body style life. Dodge came out with the SRT4 Neon until the Neion was discontinued. Audi makes special edtions all the time at the end of a body. Hell Subaru sold 800 extra STis when they made the STi Limited in 07. I just don't think they'll make it cause they never bring the real "good" subarus to the north american market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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