uwishu1 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Thanks for the confirmation gentlemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Sorry I was not clear, and I was tired. I'm an old function over form guy. If something does not perform better, it does not go on my car. I don't even turn the radio on in my car because it interferes with the "music" if you follow. Philips is (at least was) the number one manufacturer of HID bulbs. The Philips OEM D2S bulb is rated at 4100K at 12.8 volts and produces 3200 lumens of light. The Philips Ultinon D2S is 5800K at 12.8 volts and produces 2400 lumens of light. On average, 5000k bulbs put out about 300 less Lumens than a 4100k bulb (can't remember actual numbers on the even 5k's). The 4100k bulbs ARE excepted to be closest to actual sunlight. So in my world of performance, or in my "opinion" anything more is getting into "bling". If people want to buy the higher kelvin bulbs cause they like the "look", that's their business, it's their car. However, I wouldn't want people to mistakenly THINK they perform better. Follow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniStiGuy Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 yeah I follow what your saying but a 5k bulb is far from bling and performs the same and you can find comparos of the 85122 vs 85122+ bulbs. Regardless though without a designed projector for a hid setup you won't get the quality of a full oem lamp. OEM HID's Rx330 Retro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 So if the 5k puts out less usable light, how does it "perform the same". Granted, the difference between the 4100k and 5000k is not huge, but there is a difference in produced Lumens, so truth is that at anything above 4100k you are in fact purchasing less light, and more "color". Guess it's like audio cables. You can spend a few hundred dollars, or several thousand dollars on the same length cable... and Average Joe might not notice the measurable (actual) difference in performance where as a true "nut" can tell time and time again with the naked ear. Now as to the projector... you are absolutely right. It does depend on the bulb and reflector though as to how "off" it will be. BTW, I'm a Vendor elsewhere with a couple of decades of knowledge/experience who's not looking to make waves. I do enjoy mature debate and information exchange though as EVERYONE benefits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniStiGuy Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 yes mature debates are always welcomed. The difference in lumens as previously stated though is so small that even the light output by a untrained eye will not be able to tell. You will however be able to tell the difference between a oem setup an a kit if you were to compare them by there outputs. That remindsme I still have to find someone for comparo pics around here. OEM HID's Rx330 Retro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Yes, I still hate Subaru for not giving me the option for OE HIDs on my 05 LGT. I love the OE HIDs on my 03 Evo... which is still running the OE bulbs I might add... lights on day and night since spring of 03'. Wish I could say that for the bulbs in the LGT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g2redgsr Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 and THATS a shitsubisti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Wife still loves the LGT though... then again, she's not the one maintaining it. Bastard blew a passenger front CV boot last weekend with only 54k on it. My freakin' 450hp Evo is at 74k, literally fly's through the air, and still has the OE axles. I've yanked the front ones out so many times beta testing clutches, I can't believe I've not at least lost a C clip... but all is well. Back to the LGT lights... there may be a MiniStiGuy retro fit the the LGT's future. ...but with 4100k bulbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g2redgsr Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 im surprized u havent had more problems with the evo, my friends tell me horror stories...and i used to have a talon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 99% of them are install error. ESP clutch issues! I'm an Evom Vendor/Moderator/grease monkey... I should know . Meanwhile, back to the HID walkthrough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vwown3d Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Source for the DDM kits, Dirt cheap! http://ddmtuning.com/hidkihidbuhi.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Wow! Are these the actual kits you guys are using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vwown3d Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 sure as hell looks like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDN 2.5i Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Source for the DDM kits, Dirt cheap! http://ddmtuning.com/hidkihidbuhi.html Whoa - that is good pricing. I'm happy to have bought from xenonexpert and support him as a vendor, but that said, if I was to purchase again, I'd think seriously about trying ddmtuning directly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eVoMotion Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 interesting... and I just received my kit from xenonexpert tonight. Installing on Sat am. Do we need new photos to complete the install from page 1? I gotta camera. Whoa - that is good pricing. I'm happy to have bought from xenonexpert and support him as a vendor, but that said, if I was to purchase again, I'd think seriously about trying ddmtuning directly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Would be nice for the masses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eVoMotion Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Will do. Would be nice for the masses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenon expert Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Is it just me or the pics aren't showing in the first post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenon expert Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Source for the DDM kits, Dirt cheap! http://ddmtuning.com/hidkihidbuhi.html We have the same prices (we include the battery harness) : http://www.xenonexpert.com/ddm_kit_sale.html Oliver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eVoMotion Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Been dead for a while. I took many detailed photos last weekend and plan to create a write-up with photos this weekend....for the good of the peeps. AND plan to post it in the Walkthrough section of the site as there is not one there. Is it just me or the pics aren't showing in the first post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claw Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 So about a month and a half ago I swapped in the DDM lights I bought from Oliver. Last weekend, my right light stopped igniting. I'll be swapping the ballasts this weekend to see if it's a ballast problem, or a bulb problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendozer Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Been dead for a while. I took many detailed photos last weekend and plan to create a write-up with photos this weekend....for the good of the peeps. AND plan to post it in the Walkthrough section of the site as there is not one there. Any luck on the new pics. I would like to read-up on it before my lights come in. Thanks for taking the time to do a write-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecBee Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Figured I would post my install and the few changes from the original walkthrough. First I removed the portion of the shipping cover and taped the outer cover on the bulb. I removed the plastic clip from the bulb plug so I only had to notch a V on the cover. Drilled 1" hole and trimmed excess with knife and notched a V. The I mounted the beam clamp on the frame a made a plate for mounting the Ballast. I re-tapped the ballast holes to 8x32 and mounted the ballast to the plates. I put blue marking tape on my fence to confirm proper alignment. There is a shot with both new and old lights. Plus I keep the old bulbs in the shipping covers in my trunk for emergencies.... Hope this helps. See Page 12 for pics..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uwishu1 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 ^^^ clarification: page 12 if on noob settings. Post #? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecBee Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 ^^^ clarification: page 12 if on noob settings. Post #? 167. Did the drilling of the cap. Many have not drilled the center for the wire pass through. Looked at that option but looked like I had to remove too much stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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