vader1 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I work for Avondale Subaru here in Avondale, AZ.... our lead tech is a personal friend of mine and a avid subaru modder. He is always looking for "known" issues and stuff like that... I will talk to him tomorrow and see what he says... I just got our one and only 2008 Spec.B about 3 days ago and noticed it has the choppiest acceleration I have ever seen for a turbo car. I will keep you all informed with what he says 07's too pretty please!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vader1 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I hope the 08 reflash doesnt decrease HP/TQ ratings... Hard to say, but if the problem is in the 3-4000 rpm range then peak numbers would most likely stay the same, but you could lose some in the 3-4000 range. Would I take a few less HP in the 3-4000 range to fix a car that falls on its face in that range anyway, bucks like a bronco, and accelerates like crap? YES. Abso-freaking-lutely. I'd love the car if it ran right, but I am seriously considering lemon-lawing mine. Here's my choice: $30K for a car that was supposed to be fun but runs like sh*t, or add a dohickey for $700 more that voids my warranty. OR get my $30k back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs6er Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Not NJ. But close. I had mine done at Bill Kolb in Orangeburg NY. Here's what my work order said: "Customer states check for hesitation at between 2500 and 4000 RPM. Check for possible reflash. Tech found TSB reflash on laptop and performed computer reflash, Reflash computer for hesitation concern." Speak to Greg in the service department. He will know what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvcjbl Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Talked to my service writer this morning as I am still waiting to go into work.. he said he knows of no reflash but will connect to computer for me to find out... keep in mind I still haven't talked to my tech... but either way the service writer is a legacy driver and is very interested as well... I will keep you all posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartg Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvcjbl Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 ^^^^^ Wtf?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed 2.0 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudy Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 ???? - Did the IRS at least leave you with the pak # for the 07's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 ???? - Did the IRS at least leave you with the pak # for the 07's? HAHA, sorry, its not funny, but that comment was funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Hard to say, but if the problem is in the 3-4000 rpm range then peak numbers would most likely stay the same, but you could lose some in the 3-4000 range. Would I take a few less HP in the 3-4000 range to fix a car that falls on its face in that range anyway, bucks like a bronco, and accelerates like crap? YES. Abso-freaking-lutely. I'd love the car if it ran right, but I am seriously considering lemon-lawing mine. Here's my choice: $30K for a car that was supposed to be fun but runs like sh*t, or add a dohickey for $700 more that voids my warranty. OR get my $30k back. What state do you live in? What is the lemon law there?? Here is the Maine Law IS MY VEHICLE COVERED UNDER THE LEMON LAW You may apply for Lemon Law Arbitration if your vehicle is seriously defective before any of the following Lemon Law limits have been reached: 1.three (3) years from the date your vehicle was originally sold, or 2.the end of the manufacturer express warranty term. The defect you are complaining about must occur before the vehicle has 18,000 miles on it. The Lemon Law can apply to new vehicles, used vehicles (if still within the Lemon Law limits), motorcycles and motor homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I'm now thinking about how the senior reps dont like calling me back, after I have requested it 4 times, I ended up calling and once they were available, and not on vacation. I am waiting again to hear back about that Pak #. If I dont get a call by the end of business today, I think i will call and open up the lemon law as an option. That might get someones attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPECB08 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I had my reflash done today at Cherry Hill Subaru (two blocks from SOA HQ). Took 10 minutes - they did no pretest, just plugged it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartg Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Oh crap! Wrong thread..... hahaha. That was supposed to go in the "is income tax a fraud" thread. Sorry, no PAK numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicytuna Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I'm now thinking about how the senior reps dont like calling me back, after I have requested it 4 times, I ended up calling and once they were available, and not on vacation. I am waiting again to hear back about that Pak #. If I dont get a call by the end of business today, I think i will call and open up the lemon law as an option. That might get someones attention. That is really unprofessional of them. Why don't you ask them who their manager is and escalate it up the line? They may not know the answers in regards to the hesitation but I'm sure they can tell you who their manager is. I did this once with a branch of a bank I was dealing with. Kept on escalating until I got their vice president on the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 That is really unprofessional of them. Why don't you ask them who their manager is and escalate it up the line? They may not know the answers in regards to the hesitation but I'm sure they can tell you who their manager is. I did this once with a branch of a bank I was dealing with. Kept on escalating until I got their vice president on the phone. If I recall correctly when I called earlier last month, I thought the reps said that the senior reps were the highest (when you call 1-800-SOA SUCKS ASS) But I am on hold right now waiting for a rep to pick up. I am going to ask whats going on and why no one has called me back. And if I dont like the answer I am going to mention "LEMON" and ask about higher ups. I know that the regional rep for Maine was aware of my issue, and was in contact with the dealership when my car first went in for this problem, but as far as SOA was concerned my car is operating normally. I dont think it is. Especially if there is a flash update. 2 since I've had my car (going by the info I found here, 1 in May, and one on Sept 10th) My car was manufactured 04/07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcferon Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Just had a reflash done today. Work order says: Checked programming. OLD- 226UAM96A Installed new programming. NEW- 226UAM96B We'll see what happens in a week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Convieniently the senior rep and manager for New England are unavailable. The senior rep was out yesterday and today. I told the guy I spoke with that I need a call back tomorrow, no excuses. Tomorrow they have short hours, shorter than their normal hours for a friday (must be nice) 10:30-3:00. I did mention that if this doesnt get resolved soon or if no one calls me back just to let me know the status I will be taking the steps to lemon the vehicle. (likely it will never happen). Then he said someone will definately call me back. The only thing I want right now is verification that there is an update and that the dealer will be able to have it on hand when I go out there Wednesday night. They are staying specially for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Just had a reflash done today. Work order says: Checked programming. OLD- 226UAM96A Installed new programming. NEW- 226UAM96B We'll see what happens in a week or so. Can you tell me the manufacture date of your vehicle (its on the drivers door, silver sticker) and when you bought it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Was flashed today at North Park Subaru. No comment on results, atm. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcferon Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Can you tell me the manufacture date of your vehicle (its on the drivers door, silver sticker) and when you bought it? manufacture date = 06/07 purchase date = 07/13/07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Also forgot to mention that the service technician mentioned that this flash is only for spec.Bs. I laughed at him, asked him if he was serious and the conversation ended there. All this means is that spec.Bs are the guinea pigs. I will say that after 50 miles or so there is definitely no loss in power after the flash... which surprises me alot. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPECB08 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Also forgot to mention that the service technician mentioned that this flash is only for spec.Bs. I laughed at him, asked him if he was serious and the conversation ended there. I got the reflash yesterday and was also told it was not for the lgt but only for the spec.b - as they said that the ecu programming is different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 I thought the only "real difference was the 6 speed and the Bilstien shocks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPECB08 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 I thought the only "real difference was the 6 speed and the Bilstien shocks... me too. it was news to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcferon Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Must be more than 1 reflash available. My car is NOT a Spec.B and my reflash was done as posted above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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