Long Island Legacy Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 So whats the deal with the brake TSB because right now i hear a whinning noise at low speeds and at around 40mph as well. and it goes louder when i brake and comer to a stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator GT Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 So whats the deal with the brake TSB because right now i hear a whinning noise at low speeds and at around 40mph as well. and it goes louder when i brake and comer to a stop. Not sure exactly, but I'm getting a wheel bearing replaced today (LH FR). Tech took a ride and said while it's not common, he has replaced a few on 06 and 07 and that seems to take care of it. Mine doesn't react like yours....its rotational and is NOT affected by braking or stopping. Yours might be your pads....mine are starting to squeak...but I can tell its the brakes....no worries, SS lines, pads and fluid are soon . "If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed." - T. Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Report back in a 1,000 miles or so. In the past the "studder" was fixed for a while when you load a new map cobb or otherwise. The car will likely relearn the studder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrunone Posted September 5, 2007 Author Share Posted September 5, 2007 So I just got my reflash....the tech said that it was a new flash that wasn't there when I was in for an oil change about 2 months ago. I watched them do it, so I know they didn't just reset the ecu. They took it for a test drive and he said "dude, this thing drives way better than it did before." So I drive it home....not too bad, stutter is still there, but it is greatly reduced from what it was before. Then I drove it maybe 30 miles....came right back. WTF. Screw you Subaru. Hello AP, DP, and protune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Tonight I spoke with SOA again, not the senior rep though, she was unavailable today. But the person I spoke with I explained what was going on and what Adventure Subaru did (I also called them today. I have to call back tomorrow and give them my VIN) Then it was like a lightbulb in his head came on. He said Subaru recently released a new program that dealers got that loads on a regular computer and connects to the vehicle via OBD II. The software will automatically update the engine computer if necessary. These updates (if any) would not necessarily be listed on the Subaru Tech site, nor would they necessarily pop up as a TSB. For what ever reason there may not be any written information regarding these updates. The only way to find out is to hook up the vehicle to this system and let it do its thing, thus most dealers wouldnt know about it unless they have done it before. All the dealers I spoke with either looked at TSB's or went to the Subaru Tech site to look for information regarding updates. I am going to wait for the senior rep to call me tomorrow and see what she says, and then I might head over to my dealer sometime and have them just hook up the computer to the vehicle and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 lol... they make it sound like magic. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdzowner Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 ironically enough after reading this thread i did some investigating my self and took my 07 in to the dealership. they took a look and a drive and the service guy said they reset the ecu. now before i tell you the result i would like to say that i was totally skeptical being that more than half of you say there is no fix etc what evr. well after about 45 minute they gave me back my ride and it was smooth as silk, no more studder no more hesitation. i drive about 120 miles round trip a day for work and no relaps yet. mdzowner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Give it time. Report back in 2 weeks (1000miles) lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryokosman Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Meh mines relearned a bit of the stutter back after a few hundred miles, but its still worlds better than before. Just a bit of stutter probably a 10th of what there was b4. I'm thinking AP Stg 1 whenever they come out. My 05 STi stock had a worse tune than the Spec-B does now. LOL It pinged like it loved it. Oh well I wasn't planning on modding but you know how those things go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigT Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 ARe these on AT or MT or both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 I dont think it has anything to do with transmission tbh. I think its clearly an engine problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 This is interesting.... http://autorepair.about.com/cs/faqs/l/bl583d.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrunone Posted September 6, 2007 Author Share Posted September 6, 2007 This is interesting.... http://autorepair.about.com/cs/faqs/l/bl583d.htm That is talking about a throttle response issue caused by the drive-by-wire system. The problem we are talking about is a "stutter" at 3-4krpm at or near wide open throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 i still think it shows either way Subaru doesnt know WTF they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryokosman Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Well at the least SOA needs to hire new people to write their tunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Yeah, no crap I didnt get a call back yet again from SOA, but my rep I speak to is always nice and appologetic. He tells me that they have had a high call volume lately (hopefully all of you people complaining about the hesitation!!!!) Anyway, what she did do today was speak to her manager (again slowly up the chain of people) who contacted my dealer about the issue. No word from the dealer as of tonight. We'll see if they contact me tomorrow. My rep at SOA said he would personally make sure someone calls me tomorrow to atleast give me some sort of update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 I brought my '07 Spec.B in for the reflash today. I was assured by both the service manager and the mechanic that this reflash is specific to the '07. They entered my VIN into their system, and it showed (in the manager's words) that "there is an update available for my car for hesitation at 3000-4000rpm on acceleration." The work order reads "There is an available reflash. Performed reprogram per SOA with laptop." As I was driving the car home from the garage, I took a lot of stop-and-go backroads and accelerated hard, trying to reproduce the stutter at that RPM (which I used to notice mostly in 2nd gear). There was once or twice that I thought I felt a single subtle lurch at about that RPM, but it was not an obvious stutter like it was before, and I wonder if I was simply feeling the turbo spooling up. I'll post back if I notice anything worthy of reporting after it's got more miles on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touge Tuning Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 So is there no like # they can put in the system to bring up the reflash? Seems as though this is really a hit and miss in terms of who has it and who doesnt or doesnt know how to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrunone Posted September 6, 2007 Author Share Posted September 6, 2007 So is there no like # they can put in the system to bring up the reflash? Seems as though this is really a hit and miss in terms of who has it and who doesnt or doesnt know how to do it. Nope, no number. They just have to look it up in their laptop. On a side note, I reset my ECU today by disconnecting the battery. The stutter was still there even immediately afterward. Is there something else that can cause this, maybe a vacuum leak or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 So is there no like # they can put in the system to bring up the reflash? Seems as though this is really a hit and miss in terms of who has it and who doesnt or doesnt know how to do it. The only number I see on my invoice is: J# 1 04SUZZMISC2 Misc. Engine Repair2 Hours: 0.60 I get the impression that the key piece of info for them to search for the ECU update is the part about "3000-4000 RPM." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touge Tuning Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Gonna see if one the local dealerships here in Toronto knows anything about this reflash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Legacy Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Well me car is at Metric Right now for the stutter and wheel bearing noise. I hope i don't get back there later and they say could not duplicate the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Legacy Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Dealer said there is no reflash. They said they tried to hook the car up to the computer but it said failed. And i said because of the CANbus ecu and there like uhh whatever. Sounded like they had no idea what they were talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartg Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 So does anyone here have an actual case #. not TSB or techline, but a SOA case # that can be referenced? The guys that have been flashed, what dealers did the flash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Legacy Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Yea i want to see a TSB or something pertainign to the reflash. The IDIOTS at the dealer i went to said"they hooked it up to the computer but it said not comaptible and that theres no reflash" Idiots its not compatible because its a CAN bus ecu. the dealer said that has nothing to do with it but i beg to differ ami right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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