bosco Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 dibs :lol: i double dib dare ya. bosco Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 So any springs with similar spring rate to the Pinks will work? Cobb springs? Pinks are probably a little firmer than Cobb if Cobbs are "close to stock". BTW...Cobb springs will not work with these struts. You need JDM springs. The fronts are different height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Bosco...looks really good! Are you sure you had enough poeple helping with the install?! Man..I only had my buddy and 2 year old son helping me out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Bosco...looks really good! Are you sure you had enough poeple helping with the install?! Man..I only had my buddy and 2 year old son helping me out! He needs a lot of help Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewScooby Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 It was said in another thread that these shocks might not have as much travel as the USDM SPEC B bilsteins. Truth or myth? Thanks for the info guys, I will be ordering these soon, just haven't decided if I will cut a 1/2 coil off of my ION front springs or order the new springs with the struts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxiboy Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 So which is the right PN for the top hats? Could there be a year revision between 06 & 07 SpecB? 20320AG01A 20320AG000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 just haven't decided if I will cut a 1/2 coil off of my ION front springs or order the new springs with the struts. littlebluegt cut his ions at one point i think...send him a pm. EDIT: actually i think it was only his rears. i sent an email to jack at ion. i think we'd have an issue cutting off the top 1/2" due to them being progerssive rate springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo2nr Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 So which is the right PN for the top hats? Could there be a year revision between 06 & 07 SpecB? 20320AG01A 20320AG000 To get to the Spec-b specific parts list is tricky in the SOA system....call back and try another sales person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 not trying to be a jerk but i've posted the part number like three times for the top hats i'm using #20320AG01A http://www.libertysubaru.com your welcome bosco Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 Bosco...looks really good! Are you sure you had enough poeple helping with the install?! Man..I only had my buddy and 2 year old son helping me out! as it was so eloquently stated in a previous post yes i do need help. bosco Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 littlebluegt cut his ions at one point i think...send him a pm. EDIT: actually i think it was only his rears. i sent an email to jack at ion. i think we'd have an issue cutting off the top 1/2" due to them being progerssive rate springs. Can't cut the fronts, too bad, the rears are a different story. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxiboy Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 not trying to be a jerk but i've posted the part number like three times for the top hats i'm using #20320AG01A www.libertysubaru.com your welcome bosco This is Opie's thread on PNs http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7871 at the bottom, it shows a different PN. I am not saying your PN is wrong, I just want someone to chime in on why there is a difference. Maybe they did change PNs from 06 to 07 but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Can't cut the fronts, too bad, the rears are a different story. Why? morrisok did it. You can cut the coil at the bottom. Not that I recommend that but I think it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 It was said in another thread that these shocks might not have as much travel as the USDM SPEC B bilsteins. Truth or myth? Thanks for the info guys, I will be ordering these soon, just haven't decided if I will cut a 1/2 coil off of my ION front springs or order the new springs with the struts. Bilstein HD stroke measurements are 4 3/8" or 111mm for the front. 5 1/8" or 131mm for the rear. these are garage/tape measurements so if they are off a few mm so what. i compreessed the fronts until i felt them stop and it feels like there is a rubber stop internally of some sort b/c if you really push hard to compress they will go another almost 1/2". so far i like them only time will tell. btw the shaft size vs the stock struts is almost double these bad boys are beefy. bosco Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 This is Opie's thread on PNs http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7871 at the bottom, it shows a different PN. I am not saying your PN is wrong, I just want someone to chime in on why there is a difference. Maybe they did change PNs from 06 to 07 but who knows. Opie would know. i was told the ones i have are '07 spec b. bosco Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Bilstein HD stroke measurements are 4 3/8" or 111mm for the front. 5 1/8" or 131mm for the rear. these are garage/tape measurements so if they are off a few mm so what. i compreessed the fronts until i felt them stop and it feels like there is a rubber stop internally of some sort b/c if you really push hard to compress they will go another almost 1/2". so far i like them only time will tell. btw the shaft size vs the stock struts is almost double these bad boys are beefy. bosco JDM SpecB Bilsteins have 130mm of travel in front. Looks like these are really different, i.e. looks similar externally, but internals must be different then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 asside from the length of travel. it would be interesting to know how much stiffer, if so, the JDM spec B Bilsteins are. is there a unit of measure used similar to spring ratings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Why? morrisok did it. You can cut the coil at the bottom. Not that I recommend that but I think it can be done. Technically it can be done if you do the bottom, but it messes with the variable rate part of it, at least on the rears it just slightly increases the entire spring rate. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxiboy Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 JDM SpecB Bilsteins have 130mm of travel in front. Looks like these are really different, i.e. looks similar externally, but internals must be different then. I guess we should compare HDs to JDM GT Bilsteins since that is what they are supposed to replace. JDM Spec B Bilsteins are a different animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexster Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 So which is the right PN for the top hats? Could there be a year revision between 06 & 07 SpecB? 20320AG01A 20320AG000 exactly. bosco used the 07 spec b front mounts which is the first #. the second is for the 06. i can't imagine they changed that much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo2nr Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 I used 01A. They were different from stock obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 I guess we should compare HDs to JDM GT Bilsteins since that is what they are supposed to replace. JDM Spec B Bilsteins are a different animal. You're right. I have a set of JDM GT in my suspension collection, I'll measure and let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 You're right. I have a set of JDM GT in my suspension collection, I'll measure and let you know. also.... USDM spec B Bilsteins > HD's or HD's > USDM spec B Bilsteins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostjunkie Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 You're right. I have a set of JDM GT in my suspension collection, I'll measure and let you know. Please do. I personally think that the 130mm travel number that is being bandied about for the JDM Bilsteins is without the bumpstop. Since the Bilstein HD's are being measured with the bumpstop installed, obviously they will show less travel. If you think about it 20mm is about what the bumpstop probably measures. I really doubt that there is any difference between the OEM Bisteins and the aftermarket Bilstein HD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxiboy Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Please do. I personally think that the 130mm travel number that is being bandied about for the JDM Bilsteins is without the bumpstop. Since the Bilstein HD's are being measured with the bumpstop installed, obviously they will show less travel. If you think about it 20mm is about what the bumpstop probably measures. I really doubt that there is any difference between the OEM Bisteins and the aftermarket Bilstein HD's. So I guess the real question is will the HD bottom out before the suspension hits the bump stop? If it does not then all is good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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