JJr Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Interesting: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/3d-printed-8-tablet-bracket-p5058033.html#post5058033 discojon 4th gen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdavisgtm Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Looks like I posted in the wrong place lol I dident know that there was a 3D printing thread! I made that bracket http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/3d-printed-8-tablet-bracket-p5058033.html#post5058033 and I was wondering if there would be any interest in me doing a production run? I could adapt the bracket to fit a Nexus 7 since that seems to be what everyone around here is using. The car that it fits on is a 2013 legacy premium and the tablet is a Samsung Note 8 inch. I don't know about it fitting on the models that have the touch screens built in but I would assume that there would be no problem seeing that they are sunken into the dash. The real nice thing about it is that you don't have to modify your car at all to install it and it looks fairly stock! So is there anyone interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdavisgtm Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Also check out my other project that I did with my legacy http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/3d-printed-sunglasses-holder-235064.html?p=5060347#post5060347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyGT Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 That looks awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trianafrank Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Back in the day we called this stereo-lithography and you could coat the wax type material in ceramics, allow it to harden and do it a few times, melt the wax out and pour aluminum and or the alloy of choice. Then allow it to harden and break off the ceramics and your part/parts would be within =/-.005. It was used to make fast models and rarely for production. Not even in a LRIP (low initial rate production) mode. Too expensive and that was over 15 years ago. Ironic that HP plans to break up and one of the divisions will be 3D printing. I've heard they can make food and other costly parts of pure alloys. They may make machinist a thing of the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Looks like I posted in the wrong place lol I dident know that there was a 3D printing thread! I made that bracket http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/3d-printed-8-tablet-bracket-p5058033.html#post5058033 and I was wondering if there would be any interest in me doing a production run? I could adapt the bracket to fit a Nexus 7 since that seems to be what everyone around here is using. The car that it fits on is a 2013 legacy premium and the tablet is a Samsung Note 8 inch. I don't know about it fitting on the models that have the touch screens built in but I would assume that there would be no problem seeing that they are sunken into the dash. The real nice thing about it is that you don't have to modify your car at all to install it and it looks fairly stock! So is there anyone interested? You should probably post in the 5th gen forum to. Your mount would work easier with them. Ours would need be redesigned. The nice thing is that with this clipped over the cubby we wouldn't lose use of it. With navigation http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/media/img/new-cars/IMG_7410.JPG Without navigation http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2009/08/21/09/22/2008_subaru_outback_2_5_i_limited-pic-17562.jpeg My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trianafrank Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Another Update: I'm starting to build a 4'x4' CNC router table. Will be able to do wood / alum / delrin / etc. Not sure what applications this will have for the Community here but I'm open to ideas. For the CNC nerds: CNCRouterParts: PRO4848 kit NEMA 23 drives 2.2k Water cooled Spindle It will be expanded to 96"x48" eventually. http://www.cncrouterparts.com/images/PRO4848-14-1.jpg I'm starting to build a 4'x4' CNC router table. Will be able to do wood / alum / delrin / etc. Not sure what applications this will have for the Community here but I'm open to ideas. For the CNC nerds: I retrofitted manual machines with CNC controls and did digital read outs for an outfit in Florida. Anilam Electronics, back in the early 80's, they had their own CAM (computer aided manufacturing) system. You could go with servo motors, ball screws and glass scales if your not going to put too much stress. I've seen engravers with the very same extruded materials. I'm assuming the ways are hardened steel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Back in the day we called this stereo-lithography and you could coat the wax type material in ceramics, allow it to harden and do it a few times, melt the wax out and pour aluminum and or the alloy of choice. Then allow it to harden and break off the ceramics and your part/parts would be within =/-.005. It was used to make fast models and rarely for production. Not even in a LRIP (low initial rate production) mode. Too expensive and that was over 15 years ago. Ironic that HP plans to break up and one of the divisions will be 3D printing. I've heard they can make food and other costly parts of pure alloys. They may make machinist a thing of the past? Stereolithography, aka SLA, is still stereolithography today. SLA involves using lasers to cure a resin. All the 3D printing you see today is Fused Deposition Modeling where a filament is extruded onto a bed, layer by layer. 3D printing will not make machinist a thing of the past. 3D printing is slow. Painfully slow. Most parts can be made quicker with a mill than a 3D printer. 3D printed metals are only about 93% whole, 7% voids. They also exhibit about 93% of the structural strength. You would still need to do finish work on it in order to use it because of the surface finish. It can be a substitute for low volume castings. Koneggiseeggggeeggegsseggsge has started using 3D printed titanium for some of their parts because of their extremely low production volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discojon Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 Ordered a lulzbot Taz 5 today. Iv just outgrown the small printer I had. This one had a much larger print envelope. Should be large enough to handle a double din kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstik Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 3D printed metals are only about 93% whole, 7% voids. They also exhibit about 93% of the structural strength. You would still need to do finish work on it in order to use it because of the surface finish. It can be a substitute for low volume castings. Koneggiseeggggeeggegsseggsge has started using 3D printed titanium for some of their parts because of their extremely low production volume. their is a company in the US (solid concepts i think) that printed and fired an M1911 since the patents ran out. and to my knowledge they needed no finish work at all to use the parts. but they probably have the best additive manufacturing machines in the world. the one they print the M1911 on uses lasers the bond powdered metal. COOL STUFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compsurge Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Direct Metal Laser Sinterting is what you seek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Ordered a lulzbot Taz 5 today. Iv just outgrown the small printer I had. This one had a much larger print envelope. Should be large enough to handle a double din kit Will this double din kit work with the USDM dual climate control? Or would you still need JDM parts? My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discojon Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Will this double din kit work with the USDM dual climate control? Or would you still need JDM parts? If, and that's a bit IF, I ever get around to designing it and IF it is even possible, it would be a replacement cover for the usdm face retaining those controls. IF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flinkly Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 And then doing the ecb cut-in-half method to keep power going to the controls but be able to move/relocate the radio half of the ecb? Sent from my XT1028 * Build Thread * 26.53 MPG - 12 month Average * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StkmltS Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Direct Metal Laser Sinterting is what you seek. Or DMLM if you're a GE-type. (article here with a pic of a 'printed' fuel nozzle) My DiySB rebuild Got Misfires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discojon Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 And then doing the ecb cut-in-half method to keep power going to the controls but be able to move/relocate the radio half of the ecb? Sent from my XT1028 Yeah, it would definitely not be a plug and play mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flinkly Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I could test it if you make it. already cut a 2005 radio face in half, and lost interest in the project due to no AUX input. could finish to test. might want to make a nice spot to screw the old radio to, for simplicity. bottom of the double din location maybe? my initial idea was to move the radio to an alternative location (glovebox? clock?) and use the location for an 8 inch tablet. never happened. in other news, I removed my grill wings to get started in making a grill cover that'd add honeycomb or some other visual feature to the current 08-09 outback grill. am going to keep the chrome surround in place, as well as the center emblem, and just create a cover to add an improved visual appearance. I will add, when I attempted to create a new TMIC duct, I had a hard time with FDM...shrinkage (hard to align mount points...). any way to get around that? make several smaller parts that get epoxied together later? the shrinkage never seems to stay constant... * Build Thread * 26.53 MPG - 12 month Average * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discojon Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 If you are using abs then shrikage will be an issue. HIPS has all the favorable properties of ABS but is much more dimensionally accurate, but requires a much higher temp to print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flinkly Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Yeah, abs. I'll have to see what our shop has now. I know they have much nicer equipment than fdm now. It's actually not even "ours" anymore because we "sold" it and a piece of our campus to a big 3d printing company we partner with. Sent from my XT1028 * Build Thread * 26.53 MPG - 12 month Average * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compsurge Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Have you tried the PET+ yet? I have a spool I'm itching to try. It's translucent though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discojon Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 I haven't tried PET. Now that I have a more capable printer I'm going be giving a wide variety of filaments a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trianafrank Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I'd be interested in any and all software for Subaru, I'm able to use the 3D printers of Nebraska Furniture, for the moment. Prior, the technology was called stereo-lithography and I used it for the biggest defense contractor in applications which did away with the expensive cost of a model shop. The wax type structure was coated with ceramics, allowed to dry and re-coated until the desired structural requirement was met. Then the wax melted out and aluminum and or the desire material was poured in. Lastly the -ceramics broken and or dipped in a chem etch tank. The technology is coming along and soon actual parts will be made as needed, thereby doing away with the need for inventories. You could in an ideal world get a more pure material. The configuration of any given part may call for the use of gate which would allow aluminum to flow into confined areas, prior to hardening, which is common in the investment casting industry. So the gates and the vibration to avoid air bubbles are concerns which I have considerable experience with. Along with the composites industry. In any case I'd like to see the models which you have and maybe looking at common models, there could be some economic feasibility and or a make consideration. I've trinkets, my name and company logo and tiny missiles which were part of engineering week trinkets given away. The strength is the material and thereby limited application, unless you use the material in a molding process, which might be worthwhile for high end parts in WRX/STI cars which have high cost due to Subaru and or other after market inventory pricing. When I look at the objects I've done, I doubt they would stand up to the hot Texas sun and at the microscopic level they seem honeycomb in nature. The casting is feasible and technology/innovation will someday replace inventory or the parts department.Thanks Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trianafrank Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 BTW there is a UT Texas alum, law school too, who will sell you the software for a gun. No metal detector will detect the gun, however the bullets are a whole different story. How many rounds will safely shoot through that gun is another consideration/story. Fact is that you can not only bear arms, but if you make the arm, no serial number is required. There is an idiot born everyday who devotes their time and effort to non-sense. Seriously hope we aren't here do stupid stuff? http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/a-gun-a-printer-an-ideology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trianafrank Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Again the stereo lithography is now called 3D printing. I see it as useful for outdated and or parts which are no longer in production. The first cast parts I made were with in .005 inch, which would be .125mm in metric. So if you have no luck at a company which isn't open for business or the junk yard, you might consider this a cost effective. Keep in mind that single pours cost much more and outfits with large orders will be at the front of the line. I've used Catia CAM systems to create a high speed machine CNC program. It took less time and in the world of high speed machining, aluminum is like butter. Even titanium, inconel, rene and other high nickle or tough parts are being machines using new programming techniques of moving fast and having minimal material engagement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trianafrank Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Stereolithography, aka SLA, is still stereolithography today. SLA involves using lasers to cure a resin. All the 3D printing you see today is Fused Deposition Modeling where a filament is extruded onto a bed, layer by layer. 3D printing will not make machinist a thing of the past. 3D printing is slow. Painfully slow. Most parts can be made quicker with a mill than a 3D printer. 3D printed metals are only about 93% whole, 7% voids. They also exhibit about 93% of the structural strength. You would still need to do finish work on it in order to use it because of the surface finish. It can be a substitute for low volume castings. Koneggiseeggggeeggegsseggsge has started using 3D printed titanium for some of their parts because of their extremely low production volume. 3D printing is helping to reduce the time and costs associated with production operations In the last three or four years, 3D printing has developed in certain areas in particular. While the best-known use of the technology is to produce the products themselves, perhaps the most useful facet of the technology for many manufacturers is to use it as a part of its manufacturing processes. Read more: http://www.theengineer.co.uk/in-depth/the-big-story/in-touch-with-reality-the-digital-future-of-the-factory/1019837.article#ixzz3T4kAhGGl http://www.theengineer.co.uk/in-depth/the-big-story/in-touch-with-reality-the-digital-future-of-the-factory/1019837.article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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