Alfred_Buchi Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I don't know if some of you guys remember what it's like to drive a stock LGT. It's pretty damn awful. A stock 5eat is an absolute dog. Would you mind not reminding me about that? I like my 05 5eat wagon. I don't LOVE it. Loving it will cost me 2-3 grand still (VB mod, turbo, fuel pump, DP, tune, summer tires) and I still can't convince myself to make the leap until I know what the 2014 wrx is bringing to the table. I imagine I would like a 2.0T sonata just as much. Better creature comforts and technology package mean a lot in day to day life. I'd miss my AWD probably 10 days a year when I drive in snow but in socal I'm really not sure I care enough about awd to justify the mileage. Chaining up isnt the end of the world I guess. A little faster of slower stock isn't going to sway me one way or the other. If my car were 5 speed maybe I'd be more in love and automatically hate the sonata like some of you guys seem to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated Too laff79 Posted February 2, 2013 I Donated Too Share Posted February 2, 2013 If Hyndai made that thing with AWD and a decent aftermarket, they might be in the same class as LGT. But right now it's apples to oranges. I will say, however, that a top of the line Sonata has a MUCH nicer interior/creature comfort factor than the older LGT's. I sat in one at the Philly Car Show as well as the Equus (which was baller for a Korean car). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 There's Sonata 2.0ts out there pretty well tuned. They put down close to 300whp with just a tune. The problem is the tuned cars detune themselves over time. I don't know if they found a solution yet, but that's what I read the last time I checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 until I know what the 2014 wrx is bringing to the table. Make that 2015+ 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred_Buchi Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Stop crushing my fantasies with reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Hyundai's are probably the more efficient and has an economical advantage in most areas, but Subaru's just have a better platform imo. Not many cars with all those features and all that potential, AWD, 2.5L 4 cylinder, Turbo, and 4 struts.. not to mention the frameless doors.. my favorite part. Big aftermarket support plus all that potential make the Subaru's by far the winner in terms of a "car enthusiast's" car, but if you are average joe, who does not care about the "potential factor", and will never pursue mods and does not really need awd due to lack of snow or off road terrain, then the Hyundai is the winner and you probably would not be on the net looking to troll Subaru forums. If you think logically and realistically, they are both good car companies that sell a good product. Comparing stock to stock isnt as important as potential vs potential, imo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted February 3, 2013 I Donated Share Posted February 3, 2013 Subaru's just have a better platform imo. Not many cars with all those features and all that potential, AWD, 2.5L 4 cylinder, Turbo, and 4 struts.. not to mention the frameless doors.. my favorite part. Hate to break it to you, but we don't have four struts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Shock absorbers, dampener, strut its all the same shit pistons and springs.. Struts in front and dampeners in back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacks GT Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 FTR, the Sonata SE 2.0T has higher number on the skidpad too. So let's review: The Sonata has superior equipment, better acceleration, more power, the same weight, stronger braking, more grip(in anything but adverse conditions), a stronger residual value, a better warranty and is overall of higher quality. You guys are right, the Sonata cannot hold a flame to the LGT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 You guys are right, the Sonata cannot hold a flame to the LGT. Finally, an accurate synthesis of the salient facts... - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 FTR, the Sonata SE 2.0T has higher number on the skidpad too. So let's review: The Sonata has superior equipment, better acceleration, more power, the same weight, stronger braking, more grip(in anything but adverse conditions), a stronger residual value, a better warranty and is overall of higher quality. You guys are right, the Sonata cannot hold a flame to the LGT. So buy a Hyundai.... no one is forcing you to drive a Subaru! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacks GT Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Finally, an accurate synthesis of the salient facts... Star Wars is for nerds! Since when are you Admin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacks GT Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 So buy a Hyundai.... no one is forcing you to drive a Subaru! Bought one a year ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Star Wars is for nerds! Since when are you Admin? Not sure of the reference... For the past year. And welcome back. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Bought one a year ago The above makes sense now. You and bosco should compare notes on your rides. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacks GT Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Not sure of the reference... For the past year. And welcome back. Must have the wrong guy. Could have sworn Rich (RIP) used to ridicule you for your Star Wars collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacks GT Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 The above makes sense now. You and bosco should compare notes on your rides. In my OP I'm pretty sure I stated I had one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I think your lost! Might want to check out one of the forums below, this is a Subaru forum! http://www.sonataforums.com/ http://www.hyundaiaftermarket.org/forum/ http://turbosonata.forum-motion.com/ http://www.hyundai-forums.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacks GT Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 This is the other cars sub-forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Damn you and all your silly logic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted February 4, 2013 I Donated Share Posted February 4, 2013 Shock absorbers, dampener, strut its all the same shit pistons and springs... You might be disappointed to find out that most cars have four shocks or struts. FTR, the Sonata SE 2.0T has higher number on the skidpad too. Skidpad performance != handling performance. You seem to focus way too much on numbers and not that much on how things actually drive. FWD doesn't hold a candle to rear biased AWD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacks GT Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 Skidpad performance != handling performance. You seem to focus way too much on numbers and not that much on how things actually drive. FWD doesn't hold a candle to rear biased AWD. FTR, yours is 50/50 power bias seeing as it is a Spec B and thus a manual transmission. Manual transmission Legacys have 50/50 power distribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted February 5, 2013 I Donated Share Posted February 5, 2013 FTR, yours is 50/50 power bias seeing as it is a Spec B and thus a manual transmission. Manual transmission Legacys have 50/50 power distribution. Fair enough, but even at 50/50, it handles very much like a RWD car if I stomp on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konrad Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I think this thread is useless. It has already been established that Legacy GT is superior to all cars, all makes and models. and Spec B is superior to all cars, planes and trains ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Fair enough, but even at 50/50, it handles very much like a RWD car if I stomp on it. Not even close, lol. 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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