HansGT Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 The stock front bar is 23mm. The new one is supposedly 26MM. 3mm for a sway bar is huge. If you really need new stiffer struts Id go with the konis that are in the making. Koni stock replacements have always been known to be a tad stiffer than stock. Those along with a slightly bigger sway bar would be ideal for a smooth daily driver. Plus subaru stated that 40% of body roll has been removed. Body roll is attributed to sway bars. Damping and up/down movement is attributed to springs and shocks. So if they are referring to body roll I would think the front bar was the main difference making that claim. I've been under the car and I don't see how a 26mm bar is going to fit. As it is now the 23mm is almost rubbing. It so odd to me that they are going to go 26 up front and 16 in the rear. Going to be loosy goosy in the butt. Yes "sway" bars handle sway and I agree with you, but springs/struts contribute as well during lean. The thicker sway bar will also strengthen that right to left connection limiting the independent suspension a bit...making the ride a tad more rough. Koni's....still need to hack up the stockers? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschmelcke Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 ive had the bar out before. it can def fit a 26mm in there. im guessing thats where the majority of the stiffness came from. someone already posted on this forum of how to make there 2013 handle better and the one i drove didnt feel much different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 ^ you drove a '13 3.6? If so...how did the suspension behave? In my case, I think my car is overall smooth, but when you hit some rough stuff I'm surprised how jittery it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadracer Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 How had of a job was it to get the old bar out? ive had the bar out before. it can def fit a 26mm in there. im guessing thats where the majority of the stiffness came from. someone already posted on this forum of how to make there 2013 handle better and the one i drove didnt feel much different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 ^ looks like a PITA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadracer Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Well if I don't need to lift the engine then in good. ^ looks like a PITA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschmelcke Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 How had of a job was it to get the old bar out? nothing like the 2.5GT. didnt have to lift the engine. A lot of twisting and turning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschmelcke Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 ^ you drove a '13 3.6? If so...how did the suspension behave? In my case' date=' I think my car is overall smooth, but when you hit some rough stuff I'm surprised how jittery it is.[/quote'] It was much better especially on the highway. Still floaty though. My car was almost undriveable on the highway before my RCE springs. Doesnt sound like its gonna fall apart on bumps but it was also a new car so take that for what its worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Marker Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 It was much better especially on the highway. Still floaty though. My car was almost undriveable on the highway before my RCE springs. Doesnt sound like its gonna fall apart on bumps but it was also a new car so take that for what its worth Are you running on stock struts? Did you ever have the shimmy issue? 2011 Volvo S60T6 & 2013 Volvo XC60T6 Polestar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 It was much better especially on the highway. Still floaty though. My car was almost undriveable on the highway before my RCE springs. Doesnt sound like its gonna fall apart on bumps but it was also a new car so take that for what its worth Thanks. Sounds like they stuck to the typical soft route but did a better job of matching springs/struts. Maybe they just put the 10-12 GT set up on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschmelcke Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Still on stock struts and never had a shimmy issue. Suspension mods to date: RCE springs RCE rear sway Poly front busings Tanabe front brace Cusco front braces SPT strut tower bar Rear sway bar braces Cusco rear brace on order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 ^ jittery on rough stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschmelcke Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 its not horrible. still comfortable for a daily driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadracer Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Thats the best news I've ever heard about a front sway. nothing like the 2.5GT. didnt have to lift the engine. A lot of twisting and turning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrD123 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 The stock front bar is 23mm. The new one is supposedly 26MM. 3mm for a sway bar is huge. "huge" is relative - 16 to 19 is a 99% increase in torsional stiffness, but 23 to 26 is only 60%. (still worth doing, imho - I'm waiting on the part number, but from the sound of it, changing the front sway with the 2.5 is less than fun (looking at it, you'd think you could wiggle it out of there, but apparently not... looks easier on the 3.6 since the bar appears pretty straight as compared to the mess in the 2.5...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschmelcke Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 yeah still waiting on part numbers. my friend is working so im gonna try him instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschmelcke Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 just ordered the front bar, bushings and brackets. I spoke with my parts guy and was told he wont give me the part numbers till I test the fit on my car since subaru will not allow him to return parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Resurrecting this thread as it came up on a google search. If you want to find 3.6R mods, please look at http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/official-3-6r-mod-list-219254.html "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffinHendry Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Hey so i noticed a bunch of you guys were talking about exhaust/muffler systems in the 3.6r legacy. I own a 2011 legacy 3.6r and am looking for opinions on which exhaust system to buy. Im new to Subaru mods so a easy install would be great. i am also looking for a nice growl nothing to loud i just would like my engine to sound a little bit more mean. HP is not to big of a concern like i said my main goal is to make her sound more impressive. Thanks for the help!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 http://legacygt.com/forums/showthrea...st-219254.html that is where I would start. Guys have invidia, magnaflow, custom exhausts. It depends on what type of sound you want to hear. We take the CBE exhausts of a 5th Gen GT and cut about 6 inches to fit where our Y-pipe merges. Go take a look on the link above And welcome to the forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble Rumble Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 The best place to start looking is YouTube. Search "Legacy 3.6R exhaust" and you will find tons of sound clips of the various available options to help you decide. 2012 Legacy 3.6R Build Thread 5th Gen Legacy BM/BR Body Kit Compendium Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy.B Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 HP is not to big of a concern What? Options: Nameless 5" Muffler Axleback HumbleRumble has a clip of this somewhere from his car... Megan Racing WRX 08+ These fit with a little adjusting. Basically anything that's WRX 08+ fits with a small bit of work. Perrin Axleback You could always find something you like like some magnaflows and have a shop weld them up for you. Shop around for prices. These aren't necessarily the cheapest places, just for reference. Timothy.B's 2011 LEGACY 3.6R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble Rumble Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I have the 5" muffler Nameless Axleback installed on my 3.6. No other power mods except AEM drop in filter. The 5" is the quietest option Nameless makes, with the 4" muffler being louder and the muffler delete being loudest. I love them. They sound fantastic, but even the 5" can be a bit loud at certain RPM. Here's three clips I've taken: 1. Right after install. Warm start revs, drive-bys, and idle: https://www.instagram.com/p/BKuYMohAByM/ 2. Cold start, some small revs, one rev up to 4k: https://www.instagram.com/p/BLtWpSOAT9N/ 3. Warm star, hard revs, 4k rev limiter bounce: https://www.instagram.com/p/BMpCoAGgPn9/ If you're looking for subtle, Megan is probably the quietest bolt-up axleback option, followed by the Perrin. Both sound nice and smooth. 2012 Legacy 3.6R Build Thread 5th Gen Legacy BM/BR Body Kit Compendium Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble Rumble Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Actually, just a quick note: I checked Nameless' website, and apparently they are only doing the muffler deletes or the 5" muffler now, no more 4" muffler. And it looks like they finally got some pics up of the new single wall tips. https://shop.namelessperformance.com/2010-2014-legacy-gt-3-6r-axleback-exhaust/ 2012 Legacy 3.6R Build Thread 5th Gen Legacy BM/BR Body Kit Compendium Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nads Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Hey so i noticed a bunch of you guys were talking about exhaust/muffler systems in the 3.6r legacy. I own a 2011 legacy 3.6r and am looking for opinions on which exhaust system to buy. Im new to Subaru mods so a easy install would be great. i am also looking for a nice growl nothing to loud i just would like my engine to sound a little bit more mean. HP is not to big of a concern like i said my main goal is to make her sound more impressive. Thanks for the help!!! I'm in the same boat. I'd like a different tone and maybe 20% louder. I've been considering a having an axle back made with a pair of Dynomax turbo mufflers. At this point I'm not ready to make the Raptor/XRT plunge but want to give the car a more sporty sound. I think most axle backs and catbacks are too loud and mostly design for LGT's turbo engine that has a different frequency and the turbo alone quiets down the exhaust. I had a Magnaflow in my Mazdaspeed6 and even with 1 cat and the turbo it was getting to be more than I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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