THE RZA Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 The stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRSCobra Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 This poor thread. Sorry, Paul! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryouske Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Paul does this turbo come with oil and water feed lines? Or will I have to fabricate some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexjapan Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 It comes with all necessary oil feed line/adapters, oil drain, and water feed lines. Regards, Paul Hansen http://www.avoturboworld.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryouske Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Thanks Paul! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Paul I know you are happy to move some kits and see them installed. Man I can't express how gleeful I am to see your ideas that you theorized and gathered interest about for years come to test and implementation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Paul I have a question what is the official model Turbo I read that it was developed specifically for this kit is it something AVO offer in its Turbo lineup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexjapan Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 It's not in the regular lineup - we cast the exhaust/compressor housings specifically for this application. While it could develop more power if we made a larger exhaust housing for it, unless somebody is going to go past 10psi, it would have hurt performance on the 2.5i. And we can make (and have) larger exhaust housings to swap in if that ends up being the case. Regards, Paul Hansen http://www.avoturboworld.com http://www.facebook.com/avoturboworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulk Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 So Paul for us 2005s out there, is the only install solution for us to get a EL header from the 06+ ? Is there no solution for guys who want to keep the older RS style headers, and keep the easy bolt on headers we have access to? I'd guess it would be the uppipe that would need to be different. Any chance any older uppipes may work with the kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexjapan Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 I'm looking into it - I'm pretty sure an uppipe from a 2000 RS kit would work, but it's not known till it's been done. The other option is a aftermarket, non-catted exhaust manifold for the newer cars... Regards, Paul Hansen http://www.avoturboworld.com http://www.facebook.com/avoturboworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 So Paul for us 2005s out there, is the only install solution for us to get a EL header from the 06+ ? Is there no solution for guys who want to keep the older RS style headers, and keep the easy bolt on headers we have access to? I'd guess it would be the uppipe that would need to be different. Any chance any older uppipes may work with the kit? You can either do this: http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r182/GEE-OTTO/hdr1.jpg or this: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a383/Kostamojen/header2.jpg And fab an UP or get a 2.5RS UP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubunderpar Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Do we know of any cars that are running an 4eat yet? Really struggling with saving for this kit or just buying a new car. Just passed 60k so the warrenty reason is no longer a worry, I just remember reading that highway speeds are alittle high in rpms, and i drive 100 miles a day so I need to know im not making the wrong decision by not just trying to find an xt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexjapan Posted August 19, 2011 Author Share Posted August 19, 2011 Highway rpm's or gearing isn't affected by the kit - if you are happy with your current gearing, then it's fine. That's just something particular to the car I used, the outback 2.5i which Subaru designated for some low gearing. Probably because they foresaw Outback owners getting into towing things. Which I am intending to do, so hey, they were right. In general, though, I see higher mpg with the kit on. Only 1mpg or so, but it's there, simply because the engine doesn't have to work as hard to maintain speed on the highway. Regards, Paul Hansen http://www.avoturboworld.com http://www.facebook.com/avoturboworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.sane Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 If you get the turbo kit, you might wanna add an automatic transmission cooler too, dubunderpar. It would be cheap insurance to prolong the life of the transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 I'd also opt for the LGT oil cooler as well, if that's not part of the build. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubunderpar Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Just saw an AVO 2.5 rs kit today and I was pretty impressed, making me think that this is something that I might be leaning more towards. I planned to own this car for the long haul, so reliability is key, so I'm hoping that this kit isn;t going to void that aspect of my choice. As a side note the tranny cooler was already in the plans if I decide to head this route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryouske Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Just wanna say about 7k in I love the kit. Holds up great still waiting on a tune though. Poorness sucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulk Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I do know that the 4eat is in WRXs as well, so it can handle some power, but a transmission cooler won't hurt. I probably will be getting one whenever I get the kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Just saw an AVO 2.5 rs kit today and I was pretty impressed, making me think that this is something that I might be leaning more towards. I planned to own this car for the long haul, so reliability is key, so I'm hoping that this kit isn;t going to void that aspect of my choice. As a side note the tranny cooler was already in the plans if I decide to head this route. Well any power addition is going to wear the engine faster than a complete stock BUT this kit is very well engineered by trusted folks, ask a 2.5 RS owner that is running the older kit how well these kits hold up people have logged over 40K with the kit and they installed it well over 100K on the original engine. The 4EAT may run higher RPMS on the Highway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 And I don't think the non-LGTs come with the factory oil cooler at the oil filter, hence my recommendation to install that. Cooler oil, cooler overall operating temps, better performance overall. A cooler turbo engine typically is a happier turbo engine...think big doggie grin happier. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryouske Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Where could I find one of these oil coolers? And what do they even look like...? <clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 This is what they look like and the associated part numbers. Not sure if it comes as a whole kit or not - believe the oil cooler complete P/N is it but check with your dealer. http://static.opposedforces.com/epc_img/366495103301.png Associated P/Ns: 1 Gasket-oil cooler, Qty 1, P/N 21370KA001 2 Nipple-oil cooler, Qty 1, P/N 21369AA040 3 Oil cooler complete, Qty 1, P/N 21311AA051 4 Clamp-oil cooler hose, Qty 2, P/N 21351AA000 5 Hose, Qty 3, P/N 807611031 6 Hose clamp, Qty 4, P/N 805918010 7 Connector-oil cooler, Qty 1, P/N 21317AA022 8 Pipe-oil cooler, Qty 1, P/N 21328AA011 Revised numbers: http://static.opposedforces.com/epc_img/366495103340.png Installed view: http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8246/320888466263ed7cfdb0.jpg - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryouske Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 So dies anyone know if this would just mate up with a na legacy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestratomaster Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 So dies anyone know if this would just mate up with a na legacy? looks like it should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aigochamaloh Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Where does that oil cooler plumb to stock? Some coolant line somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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