fishbone Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 I am not debating the fact whether or not Subiedoobiedoo has found, for himself, merit in using HIDs or not. He's taking debates to the contrary rather personally, otherwise I really don't see why he's launching in such rants. If it works right for you, more power to you, leave it be. There's really no reason to come back with yet another rant four months later. If you somehow feel uneasy because you keep hearing what you're doing and using is technically not right, feel free to NOT debate people left and right to no end. That's your problem, not ours. I don't offer my knowledge on this subject unsolicited left and right to people that choose to install HID kits. It is their choice and it's not my business. And really, putting HID kits in the highs, lows, fogs, rally lights, side lights, and then another set of rally lights, you can bet your ass you'll light up the road 5 miles ahead like it's noon. Yes, it will beat halogens, yes it is illegal, yes it does produce glar for incoming traffic and yes, you do see better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbone Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 (edited) By the way HIDs might actually be a thing of the past, with all the current R&D into lighting based on LEDs. What then? Are we going to have this same tirade over again? My Rallyes burned out and I am running the OEM halogens. Oh my God the children and underpriviledged nuns crossing the x-ing at midnight and me not being able to see them. Oh the horror. Really, I can see just fine. I've been at stoplights next to fancy cars with OEM HIDs and yes, I envy them. But not enough to get me out of the "meh" attitude. I'll get another set of Rallye come winter. Until then, what I have works great. The reality is nobody cares what SubieDoobieDoo uses for lighting the road ahead. Edited August 24, 2010 by fishbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperhawkLGT Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 No way your going to retro a set of LED's into a halogen housing at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeAldea Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Although LEDs can be very bright the current technology does not project light far enough forward to replace halogen bulbs or hid capsules for high beams or long range driving lights. The best usage for LEDs at this time appears to be for fog lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 ^ That's where optics come into play. Lexus and Audi both have had LED headlamps abroad for quite a while, and in the US for at least the last year, if not two. Currently, the issue is more about a lack of sufficient forward heat sufficient to clear the headlamps of even mist/frost - luckily, the stars typically generate quite a bit of heat "backwards," so it can be funneled towards the overlaying weather/aero outer lens, to effect clearing. The system in the Audi R8 utilizes fans to duct the hot air produced in such a manner. http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/30/audi-r8-gets-first-full-led-headlamps/ http://www.caranddriver.com/features/09q3/2010_audi_r8_led_headlights-tech_dept http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/HONSHI/20070725/136768/ <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbone Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 And that's why I said "current R&D", implying that I acknowledge and am aware of current shortcomings of the technology, BUT that there are continuing efforts and improvements in that field. I thought that was pretty clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 (edited) ^ I wasn't replying to you, fishbone - rather, to MikeAldea. Hence the "^" - signifying "directly above." Superhawk - I don't think it's impossible to use the current housing: but the current optics as well as rear-of-lamp elements will have to be severely modified, for sure. So I guess it's how you term the word "housing." If you mean the optics and immediate optics housing, then yes, I agree, that's likely not going to work at all (although until someone tries, who knows?!). But if all that's meant is to cram something behind our current "external" weather/aero over-lens, I'm sure that someone could well make something that'll work just fine. ---- For MikeAldea again: Holy crap! Looks like there's a lot more than I thought/was aware of! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp#LED_light_sources Edited August 25, 2010 by TSi+WRX <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbone Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I know, and I wasn't replying to you, but Mike and Superhawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 ^ Aaaaagh! Super confusing! <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperhawkLGT Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 I was just saying that at least we won't have to worry about ricers putting in led headlights like they do now with hid's, but we probably will. On that note, I am seeing so many ricers with super retarded bright halogens or hid's in halogen reflector housings, they are completely blinding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 I was just saying that at least we won't have to worry about ricers putting in led headlights like they do now with hid's, but we probably will. Frankly, I'm surprised - or maybe I just don't know about it, since I've been out of that world since 2004 - that no-one in the flashlight hobby has crossed-over and built a custom LED-based headlamp system. Even as of 2003/4, LED-based flashlights were, especially as a "custom" genre or as high-end productions - starting to overtake their then already well-advanced incandescent cousins. <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackturboblack Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Can I run 55w halogens in my 2008 fog bowls safely? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanztalon Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 here is the finished product: Finished my headlight project.... These http://store.candlepower.com/osraulhiouh7.html are the new headlight, 65 watt off-road rally lamps These http://store.candlepower.com/tugoseyeh355.html Selective Yellow fog lamps. Installed those last weekend. tonight, i finished it with a set of Lamin-X films over all the lighting....Optic Blue over the headlights, Yellow over the foglamps. throws bright, pure white HID matched light for about $100 all said and done. results: before http://lh4.ggpht.com/_BV2NnfAyPyY/S8p1x8Ni03I/AAAAAAAAKvc/s4008GgwjBU/s640/IMG_0444.JPG after: http://lh4.ggpht.com/_BV2NnfAyPyY/S8p11KUFJqI/AAAAAAAAKvc/Gc_EMbPSxFg/s640/IMG_0447.JPG http://lh5.ggpht.com/_BV2NnfAyPyY/S8p11y4DGFI/AAAAAAAAKvc/L4UVsUe08O0/s512/IMG_0448.JPG well, one of my yellow fogs burned out already....so about 8 months or so. wonderful product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs6er Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 You added light with the bulbs and removed it with the laminex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbone Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 well, one of my yellow fogs burned out already....so about 8 months or so. wonderful product. How often did you use those lights? I've had them on for 2 years now, only use them when I actually need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 well, one of my yellow fogs burned out already....so about 8 months or so. wonderful product. Lifespan varies quite a bit. Sometimes you get a "bad" bulb and it just burns out quickly. I had one last only about 8 months. I had put in the pair simultaneously. The other one I have on there still hasn't burnt out yet and it's been over a year and a half I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbone Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Maybe I'm overly careful, but when I handle bulbs I thrown on a latex glove to avoid touching the housing. I also clean them off with rubbing alcohol in case someone else fiddled with them. Grease causes hotspots which affect the lifespan of the bulb. Given how cramped everything is, it is very likely you will accidentally touch the bulb when installing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Phew. Just finished reading this entire thread. (minus a bit of skimming over the essay post arguments) So I think I've been convinced to grab the Osram 65W for low beams and HIR for Hi Beams. Hopefully candlepower ships internationally... One question: (this may be silly, but I know nothing about auto lighting) would buying these bulbs be appropriate for my AUDM Liberty 2.5i, ie. there aren't any major differences that would prevent them from working? I haven't had a chance to check what bulbs it uses since I'm at work but will check the user manual at home this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperhawkLGT Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Should be the same, it is the lights themselves that would be set up for RHD, not the bulbs. I just picked up a set of HIR's, they are pretty damn sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Nice. Yeah I figured my car would use the same, and it does so that's all good. Now I'm just trying to see if anyone locally stocks them... it's not looking too promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Interesting.... http://suvlights.com/product_info.php?products_id=332 http://suvlights.com/product_info.php?products_id=164 They're offering them in 2 different colors: hyper (clear) and hyper (super-white). Candlepowerinc (Daniel Stern's site) only offers it in hyper (clear) which is the original. I wonder how SUVLights.com got that blue coating onto the bulb for the Super White because from the pictures, the box and part number is the same so somehow I doubt Osram coated it when they manufactured it because the part numbers would be different then. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperhawkLGT Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Check the 12th paragraph, "What about light loss due to filtration?" http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/lights/light_color/light_color.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbone Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 iNVAR, Dan Stern warned of fake OSRAM bulbs being sold on the market. Not sure what to say, I was going to get a set from suvlights but now I think I will stick with his site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Has anyone dealt with www.powerbulbs.com? They are very attractive to me because they offer free international shipping (which is a huge bonus for anyone not living in the states). Unfortunately they don't seem to stock either the Osram rallye 65W or 9011 HIR bulbs Unless I'm missing it somewhere... Does anyone know any other decent international sites that won't charge an arm and a leg for shipping? I can't find these bulbs in Australia at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperhawkLGT Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Powerbulbs is in the UK, I have ordered from them with no issues, very quick free shipping to the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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