jojorios Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Not sure if it would be possible as well, but maybe a GB for the other primitive plates they offer for our models for those that may already have the front skidplate but interested in the diff/mid armor. Not really necessary but for GB price I would be in for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I'm in!! Been follow this build trying to figure out my options/steps for more power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cww516 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Forgot send a PM earlier (just did now), but I'm in as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCrash Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) I've been given the go ahead, check the group buy forum later today (waiting on some info from paul @ primitive) and tell your friends! jackal, can you delete the info you sent earlier? I dont want anyone seeing his email address and communicating outside of the group buy thread. No need to annoy the man who is giving us an awesome deal! Edited May 18, 2016 by ChrisCrash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal8788 Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 I've been given the go ahead, check the group buy forum later today (waiting on some info from paul @ primitive) and tell your friends! jackale, can you delete the info you sent earlier? I dont want anyone seeing his email address and communicating outside of the group buy thread. No need to annoy the man who is giving us an awesome deal!  Edit has been made VF54 to 20G to VF54 to 18G build thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Not sure why that email address was a big deal, it's their general sales contact email listed on their website. http://get-primitive.com/content/6-contact-us GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCrash Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Its not a big deal, but people dont read and they see an email and start emailing. most people will click on a link before going to search for an email especially when its in a post that implies a group buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal8788 Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 .... - EWG is LOUD!! Holy F! However, it's also still at the point of being fun and amusing rather than obnoxious (at least to me. Claim doesn't apply to other motorists, bystanders, passengers, etc.). Don't know how long that will last, but it's a blast right now..... Well friends, nothing really new to report (much to my great satisfaction ) buuuuut I may be entering territory where I now wish the EWG dump noise is, if not completely lost, at least muted or tamed a little bit. While I know welding a dump tube back to the downpipe would not be overly difficult for a decent fabricator, I don't know if I want to go this route yet because I still do like hearing it.  Instead I'm wondering if anyone has had any luck muffling the dump side? I've come across a few posts on other forums where people have used various things including lawnmower mufflers so I'm just looking to get some thoughts on something I might be able to try that would just bolt right up to the WG outlet. VF54 to 20G to VF54 to 18G build thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 What about a small diameter QTP exhaust cutout on the dump pipe? I imagine some of the exhaust sound would come out of it as well where the dump is plumbed into the DP, and not sure if there would even be enough room to put one. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBPeik Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Supertrap My someday I will be done with it thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegua Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I'm very happy to have plumbed my EWG back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acumenhokie Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Almost 300 posts in this thread over at NASIOC if it helps at all. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1809838 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal8788 Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 Thanks gents. I'm thinking if space allows, I'll probably give the SuperTrapp 344-1705 a shot. Sounds like it has been effective for others. VF54 to 20G to VF54 to 18G build thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojorios Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Well friends, nothing really new to report (much to my great satisfaction ) buuuuut I may be entering territory where I now wish the EWG dump noise is, if not completely lost, at least muted or tamed a little bit. While I know welding a dump tube back to the downpipe would not be overly difficult for a decent fabricator, I don't know if I want to go this route yet because I still do like hearing it.  Instead I'm wondering if anyone has had any luck muffling the dump side? I've come across a few posts on other forums where people have used various things including lawnmower mufflers so I'm just looking to get some thoughts on something I might be able to try that would just bolt right up to the WG outlet. That didn't take long... I don't have any experince with EWG's so pardon my ignorance. I always thought it only opened up when you got on it. It also flutters during light, regular around the block driving? Any thoughts of trying the hybrid setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal8788 Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 That didn't take long... I don't have any experince with EWG's so pardon my ignorance. I always thought it only opened up when you got on it. It also flutters during light, regular around the block driving? Any thoughts of trying the hybrid setup? No, you're right. It's normally closed and doesn't really make any noise until I'm at ~14 PSI. I haven't had any flutter with my setup - it is very distinctly either open or closed! I don't go WOT very often at all, but it opens enough during spirited driving that it's getting to be a minor nuisance. For example, I wanted to pass a few slower-moving cars the other day so I gave it a little throttle and I just felt a little bit foolish when I zipped past them with the WG blasting away. If it only opened at or very near WOT, it might be okay but I want to be able to mellow it out a bit for 'spirited' maneuvers so I don't look like a total D-bag.  I suppose I could also go with a stiffer spring to keep it shut until it gets closer to 18 or 19 PSI but I'm not sure that is a wise idea when my peak boost is only 22.5 PSI. VF54 to 20G to VF54 to 18G build thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutchard Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 MBC makes the wastegate opening muuuuch more predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal8788 Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 MBC makes the wastegate opening muuuuch more predictable. Yeah, I had debated about putting one in the circuit quite awhile ago. I actually bought a nice Hallman unit but ended up selling it during one of my many directional changes. I might consider throwing one in there... VF54 to 20G to VF54 to 18G build thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Just plumb it back in. Pointless noise is pointless.  Sent from a device using some software. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal8788 Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 Just plumb it back in. Pointless noise is pointless.  Sent from a device using some software. Yeah, I know that's an option too. I guess I'm not quite at the point of hating the noise. It is still fun but starting to wear thin. For me, I'd like to just tame it a little bit so it isn't quite so brash. VF54 to 20G to VF54 to 18G build thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I don't think a little Supertrapp is going to do it somehow. I'd look for something like a liter sport bike muffler you can fit in parallel to the downpipe. Lots of those around used and cheap.  Sent from a device using some software. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutchard Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 When I had an EWG on my old STi, I jammed the Supertrapp on the end of the dump tube for autox sites with sound limits. Didn't do a lot, just enough to stay under the dB limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Whelp, took me a week or two, reading a few pages a day here and there, but I finished the novel! Great info in here, sad it had to be at an expense but I suppose it has to happen to at least one person. Definitely has helped me in deciding what I need to do to get my car where I want it. And the gist conclusion, as I understood, was that in order for the 20g to be effective, cams & springs should be swapped, otherwise just go 18g.... Also, who else makes an exhaust manifold with EWG option? Any thoughts on changing to FMIC, or is it really necessary/beneficial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Going FMIC is very effective on these cars because the hood scoop is so small. With the turbo location, it adds very little extra pipe work to create lag compared to a 4th gen.  Sent from a device using some software. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal8788 Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 Whelp, took me a week or two, reading a few pages a day here and there, but I finished the novel! Great info in here, sad it had to be at an expense but I suppose it has to happen to at least one person. Definitely has helped me in deciding what I need to do to get my car where I want it. And the gist conclusion, as I understood, was that in order for the 20g to be effective, cams & springs should be swapped, otherwise just go 18g.... Also, who else makes an exhaust manifold with EWG option? Any thoughts on changing to FMIC, or is it really necessary/beneficial? Glad you made it though! You did a nice job summarizing ~60 pages into a few astute observations as well  As for the EWG header, ETS makes (or made - I don't know if they even offer it any longer) a header that is basically the stock design but with 2 wastegates on it, one tied to each set of runners. ebo3 is running this. It's a very nice design but it doesn't (or didn't) come cheap.  acumenhokie has a custom piece that was a one-off.  M1cha3l, SomeZero, and myself are all running the Six Star header (at least SomeZero was at one point). AFAIK, they are the only other shop that offers this so doing something custom is probably your other option. If you do want to consider Six Star, shoot me a PM.  Not sure if there are any others on here I've missed but the number of 5th gens with EWG are very, very low and options are very, very limited. VF54 to 20G to VF54 to 18G build thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Most everything is very limited. We are the unicorn of the Subaru world, and all the elongated looks I/we get proves this. I know parts will be hard to come by, and custom will be the only option for some, but glad some are attempting other parts and tweaking them. Still gathering ideas and ideas, but this build and the couple others are incredibly helpful and knowledge full! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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