Perscitus Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Tim, have you asked Ed regarding yay/nay on this or any other intake for your 3.6R? What's his take given the count of 3.0Rs and 3.6Rs he's tuned with all possible combos of stock/aftermarket intake, headers, exhaust setups. including intakes with that funky airbox chamber sold in Asia. The Raptor intake sadly does not fit a 5th or 6th gen 3.6R and when we talked about it a few years ago, Raptor wasn't too interested in expanding their design to cover the newer engine. With all the intake R&D work I've done on these cars, I would still vote to just keep the intake stock, milkjug resonator and all, even down to the air filtering element or at most, swap in a dry-element drop in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy.B Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) Tim, have you asked Ed regarding yay/nay on this or any other intake for your 3.6R? What's his take given the count of 3.0Rs and 3.6Rs he's tuned with all possible combos of stock/aftermarket intake, headers, exhaust setups. including intakes with that funky airbox chamber sold in Asia. The Raptor intake sadly does not fit a 5th or 6th gen 3.6R and when we talked about it a few years ago, Raptor wasn't too interested in expanding their design to cover the newer engine. With all the intake R&D work I've done on these cars, I would still vote to just keep the intake stock, milkjug resonator and all, even down to the air filtering element or at most, swap in a dry-element drop in. I have asked and he said gains were to be had but the amount, I don't think to be known. Most customers probably install the intake then do the tune. Someone (I won't say the name) had issues with their CAI causing them to bog down from from idle (I believe) and ended up just going back to the stock box. It may have been non-related to the Takeda. As for 3.0R's with the intake, there are good gains to be had but it doesn't seem to help us as much. Given what Nadracer, Fredrik, and you yourself have found. http://www.xtremeracingtuning.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1745 You may notice power and torque is down, low in the rev range and that was believed to be because the "torque box" portion of the intake was removed. So he's purchasing a Kakimoto chamber that connects to the throttle body. The gains had with Raptor CAI are pretty impressive. http://forum.liberty.asn.au/download/file.php?id=16109 As you said, I don't think they're worried about creating one for ours so it seems just the drop-in AEM for now is the best bet. I'll post back my 3rd Gear once it's installed for anyone that's interested. I'd assume it'll be just similar to what Fredrik seen but my car has shown good VE so I'm hoping for a bit more. From what I understand there has been a lot of variances in these engines. Some good, some great, some not so great. I think this may be the reason why the CAI works great with the 3.0R (most have shown to have good VE) vs the 3.6R so the results are hit or miss. http://i.imgur.com/nFkbBSy.png Edited December 13, 2016 by Timothy.B Timothy.B's 2011 LEGACY 3.6R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyvt Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Is anyone else getting the exhaust smell after adding an intake or exhaust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nads Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Is anyone else getting the exhaust smell after adding an intake or exhaust? You might want to start a fresh post with your specific issue. Edited December 15, 2016 by nads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Tim, have you asked Ed regarding yay/nay on this or any other intake for your 3.6R? What's his take given the count of 3.0Rs and 3.6Rs he's tuned with all possible combos of stock/aftermarket intake, headers, exhaust setups. including intakes with that funky airbox chamber sold in Asia. The Raptor intake sadly does not fit a 5th or 6th gen 3.6R and when we talked about it a few years ago, Raptor wasn't too interested in expanding their design to cover the newer engine. With all the intake R&D work I've done on these cars, I would still vote to just keep the intake stock, milkjug resonator and all, even down to the air filtering element or at most, swap in a dry-element drop in. Perscitus got to see my car first hand with stock intake and exhaust with raptors and the cars are not far off. The sound from his setup is night and day deeper, and more "porsche-like" then mine, but power wise they are very similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffinHendry Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Are you worried this intake might damage your engine in anyway? I am looking at this intake myself but am not sure if i want to pay for the part and the dyno/tune. Is a tune even completely necessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy.B Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 You would need a tune. I would spend money on a catback exhaust first. Your first performance bottleneck is the exhaust system. After that you should see gains from the intake. I actually installed the AEM filter and although I thought I felt better gains, I may have been wrong. My AFR's had gone rich (meaning she's getting less air) and I'm a bit confused as to how an AEM filter flows worse than an OEM Subaru one. So I ordered a new OEM one and will do two gear pulls with both to see. Sometime this week. I had a faster run than before but it was also sub zero temps which may have been to why they "felt" better. Butt dyno's aren't always the most accurate. As Perscitus stated, and I believe to be right, might be best to just leave the intake stock (even the air filter) and spend the money on other performance parts. Timothy.B's 2011 LEGACY 3.6R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 ^^^ It isn't flowing worse. Your ECU has compensated, or rather, over-compensated for the additional flow. Same thing happened when I installed a larger TB on my 3.6. "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootyologist Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Are you worried this intake might damage your engine in anyway? I am looking at this intake myself but am not sure if i want to pay for the part and the dyno/tune. Is a tune even completely necessary? I'll sell you mine. It was only used for 6 months. Maybe put 5k miles on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I'll sell you mine. It was only used for 6 months. Maybe put 5k miles on it. 1 dolla Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy.B Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Timothy.B's 2011 LEGACY 3.6R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy.B Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 ^^^ It isn't flowing worse. Your ECU has compensated, or rather, over-compensated for the additional flow. Same thing happened when I installed a larger TB on my 3.6. So, returning for a follow-up. Seems you may have been right, Mr. Fredrik http://www.xtremeracingtuning.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1842 After leaning out she gained a bit. Moreso up top as shown in your dyno runs. Now, these are nothing accurate. The run with the new filter it was actually a bit warmer out. This just shows that it's definitely an increase. Timothy.B's 2011 LEGACY 3.6R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougKelly20 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Anyone know if this intake fits the 6th Generation? Their website indicates it's compatibility stops with the 5th but I'm not sure if that's by design or omission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Anyone know if this intake fits the 6th Generation? Their website indicates it's compatibility stops with the 5th but I'm not sure if that's by design or omission. Better question for the 6th gen group, but its for the h6 and their motors are identical. Be advised the stock airbox is already a CAI and its bigger, this actually can reduce flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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