No more kill stories

[Yukonart]

but it's ok to increase their e-penis on the track? that's so much better? yeah it's safer but the fact is most people that have a turbo legacy wouldn't mind taking a bass rumbling civic revving at the legacy on some open road. get real.

 

People go to the track to become better drivers. If they want to brag about lap times or 1/4 mile slips, that's their prerogative. Either way, bystanders aren't being endangered for the kicks of immature behavior.

 

As for the bass rumbling Civics. . . I'd rather see them think I was going to take them and watch them get pulled by johnny law. Now THAT is entertainment.

[c-lo]

Hey guys.......can't we all just get along? How 'bout a group hug, huh?

[sduford]

Guys, have a bit of respect for the decisions made by the guy who owns this place and graciously provides us with this great service. Believe me, Tide did not make this decision lightly and he's been mulling over it for months.

 

If you don't like it, there are plenty of other places where you can go tell your stories.

[wunderkind]

You know what kill stories are right? Ego stroking.

[ADirtyLegacy]

so after reading the new threads my questions is this, why do we post? obviously the stop light to stop light post are done, but if SOA is good about denying warranty coverage, then why are there so many threads about AP, EcuTek, etc? what if OCDs scenario plays out? if they are watching then they will see the "do i need to go back to stock ecu" post and know right away something is up. it's the same concept but nobody is up in arms about that.

 

it's like someone else said, if you feel the need to post about your race up to 130 with the kids in the car, then that's your problem. however IMO, i see nothing wrong with posting you smoked a Z28 from stop light A to stop light B. seriously, if you don't like "street racing" then why do u even think about clicking the thread? just to state your point of view when you know it doesn't agree with others to get a rise out of them? how grown up of you!! i'm not saying driving up to 130 with the family in the car is a good idea, in fact it's stupid. we do more driving on the street than we do on the track (for those lucky enough to have a track by them). why not safely have fun on the street? i know for one i would like to know that if my lane is running out at the next light, that i'm gonna be able to get on it and get in front of the car next to me and make my point known!

 

Kenda

[TSiWRX]

...the guy " driving fast" while moving the cars is a tool. I feel bad he got fired, but come on, would you like it if he was the one beating on your car without it broken in? Problems he might cause affects subaru's integrity......

 

Brother, you don't want to watch how those transport drivers unload our new cars onto the dealer's parking lot.

 

 

Additionally, like brother jedi alluded to earlier (post number 95), since those "DSM-vs.-Scooby Shootouts" were publicized on the various enthusaist Forums....

 

Not too long ago, some Mitsu corporate types showed up at one of those, with the end-result being voided factory warranty on a bunch of Evos.

 

Needless to say, the well-recognized and well-respected tuner who organized the event was rightfully furious.

 

 

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All,

 

I stand in-favor of Tide's decision -

 

And also for all, including Whitestar Pilot, as this is Tide's site, and his decision to make, it's rather not that some third party is imparting their view and quashing the rights of someone else to free speech - but instead, I think it is, in your own words, "un-American" for you to be insisting that his actions are incorrect. It's Tide's decision to make, and as he's the lead of LGT.com, we as its citizens are left to either get on the bandwagon, or get out. Certainly, I'd imagine that the opinions of Donating Members did weigh-in on his decision, but what's policy is left solely up to him to decide, and as membership in this community is purely voluntary, he's not imposing his view on anyone's "rights," but rather, is setting the boundaries for privilege.

 

Did I enjoy the stories?

 

I certainly did.

 

Do I sometimes engage in horseplay on public streets?

 

Sadly, yes - but I am only human, and sometimes, the situation gets the better of me.

 

Will I mourn the passing of such stories?

 

Yes, and I'll likely also expand my on-line time/membership to include a LGT-related community that does host such stories.

 

But I certainly also won't miss them, here - I think that LGT.com wants to present itself in a legitimate manner, and one which is in the best traditions of the import tuner community. Following in such footsteps, it's easy to see why stories such as these as well as any "bench-racing" would dilute and degrade the noise-to-signal ratio.

 

And aside from this, as we've all touched upon previously, the spectre of legal quagmire -as well as SoA overwatch- is simply too great to ignore.

 

True, the old adage of "don't click on it if you don't want to read it," as Kenda pointed out, would have worked easily. So would a dedicated section to such stories/tales, with perhaps a cautionary title/tag under the main Forum link to indicate its contents and to put up any disclaimers. Such options were suggested to Tide, to the best of my recall, and it was again his decision to not do so.

 

As a guest of this community, I want to obey its rules as they're set by its leader. I may or may not like those rules, either as they are now or even as they evolve further-on down the road, but I know, too, that my membership here is voluntary, and I can take myself, as well as my support, elsewhere, if and when the day comes when I no longer feel that my views are in-line with that of the site's.

[LegGTLT]

As for the bass rumbling Civics. . . I'd rather see them think I was going to take them and watch them get pulled by johnny law. Now THAT is entertainment.

 

Ok, so I've still been reading this whole thing and in the end, I don't run it, I haven't paid for yet (when those new stickers and shirts are announced though...yum:D ), and I couldn't really get offended by the whole thing cause I don't own it.

 

Yet, not to be rude or off topic, but in regards to the above quote, I have several stories like THAT! They're GREAT! People have tried to race me, I've lead them to believe I was going to race them, and they speed off to literally be pulled over before my eyes... would that be ok? Cause I'm sorry, but it's really funny to watch some raced-out car of any sort think they're the sh*t (especially against a stock '88 Civic HB, 1st car, or a stock '02 GT LT, 2nd car, haven't had any challenges to the '05 yet) and then have to pay a cop for their 3 seconds of stupidity. Yes, I have made the mistake of accepting a challenge or two back in the day, but if we're not breaking the law in the story, can we still share it? It would be a topic post like this: " '99 Civic Si killed by WA State Patrol" or " '95 Camaro killed by Seattle Police", possibly even my favorite personal one, " '98 Integra killed by UNDERCOVER Sherriff on NB I-5". So anyways, just wanted to ask if we actually can post those in the "Legacy VS." forum, 'cause in all honesty, they still are a little funny don't ya think? Just my .02...

[VXCL]

You do Know that there are dealerships that view this site correct? Post your time slips.....take pictures of your nice cars.....Get your warranty voided for tracking it:(

My warranty went out the door with less than 3k on the ODO but several users go to tracks with stock cars & post the info.....

Just my .02

 

i couldn't tell if you were joking or not, but if your dumb enough to have a pic with your plate or vin they cant say for sure its you anyway. they would have to find whatever your worried about when you brough it in. in addition that pic of your engine bay might be some1 elses and your posing. that would never stand. im pretty sure you were joking though.

[VXCL]

Even bone stock, if you need to file a warranty claim and Subaru can prove (through a post made here) that you 'raced' (even legally on the track), the warranty can be denied.

 

It will go on your PERMANENT RECORD!!!! sounds like scare tactics to me. like that BS increased police spam i get every week. unless something like a vid or pic with visible tags was posted there's no way. if anything you may put your car under a more thorough check for abuse, racing, whatever and THEN they may find real proof.

 

basically what i'm saying is that i agree its possible posting can help LEAD to an issue, but the posts alone can't stand on their own unless you have some really stupid pics or something.

 

SOA i used some pro long and drained all my oil out then went auto x'ng all day with my mbc @ 69psi!!! it was awesome. i smoked that 94 pos viper with ease

 

im pretty sure by the "and subaru can prove" part that we agree, i don't want to start seeing people saying "SOA is watching!" and stop talking on this site.

[VXCL]

I don't have an example like the one you are looking for, but bear with me for a second. I'm not trying to argue, but imagine this situation. I can tell you for a fact that something similar to this has happened before.

 

You tell the dealership that you read on this forum of the ECU fix.

 

The dealership goes online and peruses the threads.

 

They see where you have posted about your experiences with the dealership and they recognize the issues.

 

Then they read about where you have modified your car in such a way that it affects your warranty.

 

They save every page they see you post in for future reference and note it in the computer.

 

You come in with a problem that may or may not be caused by your modifications and they wave the posts in your face. Warranty work is denied and they suggest you find a lawyer to fight them about it.

 

You find a lawyer. They find a lawyer. Their lawyer subpoenas TIDE for your IP information and they download every post you have made.

 

You lose the case after the dealership does very specific inspections on your car and spot the tool marks that give away your modifications. End of story.

 

 

That is a very possible scenario on how what you post here can cause you trouble. I've been an admin on other sites and I know what it is like to get a subpoena for threads that are needed for a lawsuit. It is hassle and drama that no admin wants. Running the site is hard enough, but once the liability of letting people say whatever they want starts to affect you, then rules start changing.

 

The bottom line is that if you want to post your kill stories or street racing experiences or how illegally modifiying your car for street use is done, then start your own board and go nuts. It's not hard to do and it can make you some money if you do it right.

 

yes yes exactly what i wanted to say!!!!! your whole post was perfect. i wish i read it earlier.

[pacbreak gt]

Regarding post 132 from TSi+WRX:

 

Amen.

(now visualize a smiley with bowed head and closed eyes)

[wukindada]

VXCL Call it whatever you like.. SOA can & will void your warranty. You play you pay:( I live less than an hour from Sebring FL & I can tell you if you use the track for any reason SOA will find out. I found that out with my S4 (the hard way)

I am 34years old, I do not ride around town looking for races. If the trafffic permits and someone wants to test me I am more than willing to take the challenge.

To say in a post that it is due to being immature or a lack of masculinity.... I suggest you swing from my masculinity!

I will no longer post anything in regards to threads regarding street racing ...kills etc... if you have a problem with my feelings PM me;)

[legacy_y_tu]

I can see it coming, pretty soon we're all going to sound like Rao clones:D. The master of "tongue in cheek" and king of "conveying a lot whilst still saying nothing at all" .

 

IBRaosayswhomeeee?

[VXCL]

To say in a post that it is due to being immature or a lack of masculinity.... I suggest you swing from my masculinity!

I will no longer post anything in regards to threads regarding street racing ...kills etc... if you have a problem with my feelings PM me;)

 

Are you talking to me? or to others? Where are you comming from? I never said anything like that to you.

[PGT]

 

IBRaosayswhomeeee?

 

[wukindada]

VXCL my comment to you was in regards to SOA & voiding of warranties.

My other comment was for members that are going on & on about street racing....you know who you are!

[team23jordan]

damn took me long time to read the whole damn thing

i've street raced my friend's z4 and posted it on here couple weeks ago

but after reading this thread, i started to ask my self, why did i race him?

what are the consequences?? and if caught by popo, what's gonna happen??

 

looking back, it was dumb

 

i heard this on speed channel once,

"street racing is like kissing your sister. it just doesn't make any sense."

 

i agree with tide and bunch of other members who are against street racing.

[mach_six]

i heard this on speed channel once,

"street racing is like kissing your sister. it just doesn't make any sense."

 

 

is that why it street racing is popular down south?

 

Street racing = teh gay

[wukindada]

Is that thare reason ya"ll keeps cummen dawn hare?

Right next door...moved from Long Island (Jan 05)....across the street Scranton, PA(Jun 05)!

[zzzzzzz]

this is the biggest bunch of crap i have ever heard , wheres your balls, 5th ammendment. say what you will, its cool to surf some lude porn site and a bunch of other crap ,but just blogging about your car and YOUR SCARED to post it???????im embarresed to be a part of this site and this will be the last time i visit .... YOU DRIVE A CAR WITH BIG BALLS BUT HAVE NONE OF YOUR OWN!!............LATER POSER!!!

[themute]

^^^^

 

that speaks for itself.

[melayout]

Tide's decision is doing some good, I love it.

[PGT]

 

How much balls does it take to post an attack like this anonymously? It's really easy to call names, etc. when no one knows who you are.

 

One day, he'll finish high school and learn what responsibility and maturity is

 

IBattackingresponsefromzzzzzzevenafterhepromisednottopostanymore

[Tide]

Yeah, I think the perverbial horse here has been beaten. Topic Closed.