hmmrdwn Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Here is something interesting. Go to the NHTSA and conduct a complaint search on a 2011 Hyunda Sonata and see what comes up. I don't know if this link will work so I will clue you in...459 complaints for that specific model. http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/results.cfm The do one for the 2011 Subaru Legacy. You will get 18 complaints. http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/results.cfm Hmmm....which has better quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted October 11, 2011 I Donated Share Posted October 11, 2011 Here is something interesting. Go to the NHTSA and conduct a complaint search on a 2011 Hyunda Sonata and see what comes up. I don't know if this link will work so I will clue you in...459 complaints for that specific model. http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/results.cfm The do one for the 2011 Subaru Legacy. You will get 18 complaints. http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/results.cfm Hmmm....which has better quality? First-year blues. Check the 2010 Legacy and Outback, and there are a total of 142 complaints. Chalk the difference up to the fact that Subaru sells fewer and doesn't have a hybrid model (half of the complaints were about a specific fault with the Sonata Hybrid). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Guess you should buy a used Yugo and invest the difference. This would be your dream car.... http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3458/4261/33644630003_large.jpg clever If you talked with any economist they will tell you to buy the least expensive car you can get by with, drive it ten years and repeat. btw a Yugo is not on the list. Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Most inexpensive car that is RELIABLE and will last that ten years. Screw economists though. Money is a tool, and I work fairly hard to get it, and I like cars. What is the point of making a decent living if you never take some advantage of your income by doing or buying nice things (within reason)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 ^ You're right, you only live once. I was just doing the same thing my dad use to do with me trying to keep me out of debt. I didn't listen either. Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Well if you can afford nice things, every once in a while you should buy one. Otherwise why work so damn hard? If you have no goals that are rewarding then it is awfully hard to keep focused on meeting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmrdwn Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 First-year blues. Check the 2010 Legacy and Outback, and there are a total of 142 complaints. Chalk the difference up to the fact that Subaru sells fewer and doesn't have a hybrid model (half of the complaints were about a specific fault with the Sonata Hybrid). I thought Hyundai was all about quality? The cars both have essentially the same components and are mass produced on large scale. Problems will manifest themselves if they exist. It was really surprising to see Hyundai Sonata have 459 complaints. Pretty high for a top ranked car. By the way, the 2010 (first model year) Subaru Legacy only had 41 complaints. Far less than the Hyundai Sonata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasAyinde Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Well if you can afford nice things, every once in a while you should buy one. Otherwise why work so damn hard? If you have no goals that are rewarding then it is awfully hard to keep focused on meeting them. Agreed. i truly believe in spoiling yourself every now and then. A couple weeks ago it was a new home theater system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmrdwn Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Everyone makes fun of the Chinese, but they are buying up auto makers and will overtake Hyundai and Kia in the future. Imagine that when they used to make cars like this... [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F3nLj9ljWo]china cherry motors car crash test - YouTube[/ame] Maybe our next cars should be Cherrys'. They will be top quality and top rated safety picks soon. Here is an old Hyundai. Quite the storied history: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IujsXr_BDbM]Hyundai Sonata 1998 ANCAP Crash Test (2 stars) - YouTube[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrinerMonkey Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I thought Hyundai was all about quality? The cars both have essentially the same components and are mass produced on large scale. Problems will manifest themselves if they exist. It was really surprising to see Hyundai Sonata have 459 complaints. Pretty high for a top ranked car. By the way, the 2010 (first model year) Subaru Legacy only had 41 complaints. Far less than the Hyundai Sonata. You do know that the NHTSA site is probably one of the least reliable sources for reliability data, right? Anybody and his retarded monkey uncle can just go on there and spew complaints till the cows come home, it doesn't mean anything as nothing is checked for accuracy. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/02/the-truth-about-nhtsa-complaints/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmrdwn Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 You do know that the NHTSA site is probably one of the least reliable sources for reliability data, right? Anybody and his retarded monkey uncle can just go on there and spew complaints till the cows come home, it doesn't mean anything as nothing is checked for accuracy. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/02/the-truth-about-nhtsa-complaints/ They are still customer complaints and the raw data can't be ignored. There were 10 times as many complaints about the 2011 Hyundai Sonata as the 2011 Subaru Legacy. It seems not all Hyundai owners share the love for their reliable Hyundai as people here. There are probably many more dissatisfied Hyundai owners out there too. This doesn't include the 10's of thousands of rentals and fleet Hyundai's that the owners aren't motivated or empowered enough to even complain. Undoubtedly there are businesses that don't bother messing with a complaint. Yep, some people really hate those NHTSA complaints.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtmenace Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 They are still customer complaints and the raw data can't be ignored. There were 10 times as many complaints about the 2011 Hyundai Sonata as the 2011 Subaru Legacy. It seems not all Hyundai owners share the love for their reliable Hyundai as people here. There are probably many more dissatisfied Hyundai owners out there too. This doesn't include the 10's of thousands of rentals and fleet Hyundai's that the owners aren't motivated or empowered enough to even complain. Undoubtedly there are businesses that don't bother messing with a complaint. Yep, some people really hate those NHTSA complaints.... no, it just means that hyundai owners are visiting that site while subaru owners spend their interweb time on here masturbating to hangers car ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmrdwn Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Looks like the hyundai fans have no more facts and only subtrefuge.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasAyinde Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Looks like the hyundai fans have no more facts and only subtrefuge.... *subterfuge http://affordablehousinginstitute.org/blogs/us/wp-content/uploads/inconceivable_means_02.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmrdwn Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 *subterfuge http://affordablehousinginstitute.org/blogs/us/wp-content/uploads/inconceivable_means_02.jpg Thank you for checking the spelling herr masindye...you da best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmrdwn Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Unverified NHTSA complaints: September 27, 2010 – – Hyundai Motor, South Korea's top automaker, will recall some 139,500 Sonata sedans sold in the United States, due to steering issues that could cause a loss or reduction of steering control, the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said on Sunday. A Hyundai spokesperson confirmed the recall. The vehicles were built from December through September 10, according to the NHTSA report. In February, Hyundai recalled 47,000 of its 2011 Sonata sedans in South Korea and U.S. because of potential faults in the front door locks....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmrdwn Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrcyQKcFOmw]2011 Hyundai Sonata Recall - YouTube[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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