Virtual Dyno

[JDM SpecB]

I chose that wording on purpose. A little less than 250hp/tq seems right. But if you're not done being tuned, why are you even doing this? You're beating your car and it's knocking because of it.

 

Im not beating the car though, I had to do a couple of pulls to send back to the tuner.

These pulls are what you see in the VirtualDyno and only one other in romraider dyno.

2 x 3rd gear pulls. I cant see how you can get tuned doing less than this.

[bmx045]

True this.

[iNVAR]

I tried to load up 11 of my logs at once and it crapped out with an error of E106: Index was outside of the bounds of the array.

 

10 of them open up just fine, but if you try to add an extra one in, it errors out...

 

And uh.. yes, I NEED 11 open at once!!

[bbarnhill]

Its only supposed to support 10 and then give you a message about it only supporting 10 at a time. Ill look into why its erroring out though.

[BigTDogg MA]

Thanks for this product, cool toy

[JDM SpecB]

Few quick questions:

 

What do I enter in the final drive box? 4.444 ?

 

http://i51.tinypic.com/sma8lj.jpg

 

<CarMake>Subaru</CarMake>

<CarModel>Legacy</CarModel>

<CarSubModel>Wagon</CarSubModel>

<StartYear>2003</StartYear>

<EndYear>2006</EndYear>

<Weight>3351</Weight>

<TransTypeManual>False</TransTypeManual>

<TransGear3>1.296</TransGear3>

<TransGear4>0.972</TransGear4>

<FinalGearRatio>4.444</FinalGearRatio>

<DragCoefficient>0.31</DragCoefficient>

<FrontalArea>22.56</FrontalArea>

<TireDiameter>24.62</TireDiameter>

 

 

http://i51.tinypic.com/28v0bs.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/2ed2qn4.jpg

[bbarnhill]

If your final gear ratio is 4.444 then yes.

[BigTDogg MA]

I checked through the thread, but does this calcualte WHP or BHP?

[bmx045]

*should be wheel*

[BAC5.2]

It is wheel.

[BigTDogg MA]

I figured as much, with the gear ratios and tire sizes.

 

And Subaru's MT AWD loss is like what? 18%-ish? 20%?

[JDM SpecB]

If your final gear ratio is 4.444 then yes.

 

Well I thinkit may only be the MT ratio so I need to recheck now.

 

MODELS DISPLAYED INCLUDE:

-JDM Legacy 2.0GT Spec B

-USDM Legacy 2.5i 5MT

-USDM Legacy 2.5GT 5MT & 5EAT

-USDM Outback 2.5XT 5MT

-USDM Forester 2.5XT 5MT

-JDM Forester STi 6MT w/ USDM WRX STi gear comparo

-USDM WRX 5MT

 

 

*****

JDM Legacy 2.0GT Spec B 5MT Gear Ratios (with 4.444 Final Drive Ratio - Est. Tire Dia is 25.6")

[code:1:14132d5928] 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th

Ratio 3.166 1.882 1.296 0.972 0.738

2250 12.2 20.5 29.8 39.7 52.2

2500 13.5 22.8 33.1 44.1 58.1

2750 14.9 25.0 36.4 48.5 63.9

3000 16.2 27.3 39.7 52.9 69.7

3250 17.6 29.6 43.0 57.3 75.5

3500 18.9 31.9 46.3 61.7 81.3

3750 20.3 34.1 49.6 66.1 87.1

4000 21.7 36.4 52.9 70.5 92.9

4250 23.0 38.7 56.2 74.9 98.7

4500 24.4 41.0 59.5 79.3 104.5

4750 25.7 43.3 62.8 83.7 110.3

5000 27.1 45.5 66.1 88.2 116.1

5250 28.4 47.8 69.4 92.6 121.9

5500 29.8 50.1 72.7 97.0 127.7

5750 31.1 52.4 76.0 101.4 133.5

6000 32.5 54.6 79.3 105.8 139.3

6250 33.8 56.9 82.6 110.2 145.1

6500 35.2 59.2 86.0 114.6 150.9

6750 36.5 61.5 89.3 119.0 156.7

7000 37.9 63.7 92.6 123.4 162.6[/code:1:14132d5928]

 

*****

USDM Legacy 2.5GT 5MT Gear Ratios (with 4.111 Final Drive Ratio - Est. Tire Dia is 24.7")

[code:1:14132d5928] 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th

Ratio 3.166 1.882 1.296 0.972 0.738

2250 12.7 21.4 31.0 41.4 54.5

2500 14.1 23.7 34.5 46.0 60.6

2750 15.5 26.1 37.9 50.6 66.6

3000 16.9 28.5 41.4 55.2 72.7

3250 18.3 30.9 44.8 59.8 78.7

3500 19.8 33.2 48.3 64.4 84.8

3750 21.2 35.6 51.7 69.0 90.8

4000 22.6 38.0 55.2 73.6 96.9

4250 24.0 40.4 58.6 78.2 102.9

4500 25.4 42.7 62.1 82.8 109.0

4750 26.8 45.1 65.5 87.3 115.0

5000 28.2 47.5 69.0 91.9 121.1

5250 29.6 49.9 72.4 96.5 127.2

5500 31.1 52.2 75.9 101.1 133.2

5750 32.5 54.6 79.3 105.7 139.3

6000 33.9 57.0 82.8 110.3 145.3

6250 35.3 59.4 86.2 114.9 151.4

6500 36.7 61.7 89.6 119.5 157.4[/code:1:14132d5928]

[code:1:14132d5928]6750 38.1 64.1 93.1 124.1 163.5

7000 39.5 66.5 96.5 128.7 169.5[/code:1:14132d5928]

If the redline was capable of 7000 (figure rev limiter being perhaps 7200), the 1/4-mile could have been run in 3 gears!

 

*****

USDM Legacy 2.5GT 5EAT Gear Ratios (with 3.270 Final Drive Ratio - Est. Tire Dia is 24.7")

[code:1:14132d5928] 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th

Ratio 3.540 2.264 1.471 1.000 0.834

2250 14.3 22.3 34.4 50.6 60.6

2500 15.9 24.8 38.2 56.2 67.4

2750 17.5 27.3 42.0 61.8 74.1

3000 19.0 29.8 45.8 67.4 80.8

3250 20.6 32.3 49.6 73.0 87.6

3500 22.2 34.7 53.5 78.7 94.3

3750 23.8 37.2 57.3 84.3 101.0

4000 25.4 39.7 61.1 89.9 107.8

4250 27.0 42.2 64.9 95.5 114.5

4500 28.6 44.7 68.7 101.1 121.2

4750 30.2 47.1 72.6 106.7 128.0

5000 31.7 49.6 76.4 112.4 134.7

5250 33.3 52.1 80.2 118.0 141.5

5500 34.9 54.6 84.0 123.6 148.2

5750 36.5 57.1 87.8 129.2 154.9

6000 38.1 59.6 91.7 134.8 161.7

6250 39.7 62.0 95.5 140.4 168.4

6500 41.3 64.5 99.3 146.1 175.1[/code:1:14132d5928]

*****

 

 

[BigTDogg MA]

Could you add the Legacy GT wagon as well? The sedan and wagon had some slight differences:

 

<CarMake>Subaru</CarMake>

<CarModel>Legacy</CarModel>

<CarSubModel>2.5 GT Wagon</CarSubModel>

<StartYear>2005</StartYear>

<EndYear>2007</EndYear>

<Weight>3435</Weight>

<TransTypeManual>true</TransTypeManual>

<TransGear3>1.296</TransGear3>

<TransGear4>0.972</TransGear4>

<FinalGearRatio>4.111</FinalGearRatio>

<DragCoefficient>0.31</DragCoefficient>

<FrontalArea>22.56</FrontalArea>

<TireDiameter>24.62</TireDiameter>

 

Thanks a ton!

 

 

Oh, and what sensor does the program used for AFR? I'm logging AF1, so I assume I need AF2 because it's not showing up on my chart.

[bbarnhill]

Ill add this wagon in the next update. I need to see a log too if your AFR isnt showing up. Just post a log in here and Ill take a look at it.

[BAC5.2]

And Subaru's MT AWD loss is like what? 18%-ish? 20%?

 

Hard to say. Probably something in the 20-23 range.

[BigTDogg MA]

Hard to say. Probably something in the 20-23 range.

 

Holy shitballs. Guess the easiest way to tell would be to dyno a brand new LGT and calculate it based on the claimed BHP from Subaru.

 

Ill add this wagon in the next update. I need to see a log too if your AFR isnt showing up. Just post a log in here and Ill take a look at it.

 

Attached below

Log 3 9-15-2011.csv

[bmx045]

you should really feedback knock corr and fine learning knock correction.

[BigTDogg MA]

you should really feedback knock corr and fine learning knock correction.

 

You should really english.

 

Are you saying I should log those things? I'll add them to my logger profile, thanks.

[bmx045]

you should really really those parameters. They are essentially the whole reason to log in general, to monitor knock.

[BigTDogg MA]

you should really really those parameters. They are essentially the whole reason to log in general, to monitor knock.

 

So I have "Fine Learning Knock Correction" but can't find anything named Feedback Knock Correction

 

I've got the latest version of the Logger Definitions from the RR website. Well, latest as in I dl'ed them 3 weeks ago.

[bmx045]

interesting, well, try knock sum instead. knock sum will increment as the knock sensor trips.

[cryo]

So I have "Fine Learning Knock Correction" but can't find anything named Feedback Knock Correction

 

I've got the latest version of the Logger Definitions from the RR website. Well, latest as in I dl'ed them 3 weeks ago.

 

you have to be hooked up to the ecu to get the feedback knock correction 1 and 4byte to display. It will be missing many perameters untill you actually connect. If I had to guess your car actually would show a knock count at 4866/4934 rpms unless your DA table is set to drop 2 degree's right at that rpm. anyway sorry to stray OT, love the updates on the software

 

Dave

[JDM SpecB]

How much FLKC is considering acceptable/bad?

 

This was with a map my car didnt like. IAM dropped.

[iNVAR]

Your IAM isn't at 1. That's why you are seeing positive numbers in FLKC. It's advancing timing in the areas that it feels it can safely advance timing in, without raising your IAM back to 1 and therefore advancing everything in one fell swoop.

 

A negative number means it's retarding timing.

 

Also, those FLKC numbers are already learned previously, which is why the knock sum didn't increase when those FLKC showed up. The lines where the FLKC numbers show up will correspond to the load/RPM ranges that you see in your LV. If there's red in your LV (or blue), it'll show up in your log. Blue = positive, red = negative.

[bbarnhill]

BigTDogg (MA): Ive added the AFR column to the next column update. Ill push it out in a few minutes and you should start seeing AFR next time you let VD update by being connected to the internet when you start it up.

 

Let me know if you need anything else.