fredrik94087 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I'm thinking the tarmacs. They really look nice too. Like you said the price premium. The tarmacs are KW v1 or 2? I believe they are based on the v1, but RCE said they are valved a little differently for the Legacy. "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon.mol Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 When I was in for an alignment today, the tech told me he thought my Megan toe arms were really tough looking, and I quote "unlike those China junk". I decided its best to let him think Megan's aren't from China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon.mol Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Just a quick update regarding the '14 springs with Bilsteins: These springs are a MUCH better match for these struts. The Bilsteins are heavy on compression dampening but didn't have enough rebound dampening for the Blacks, IMHO. These springs allow the struts to soak up bumps better, and don't toss the ass of the car up in the air over humps in the road. It corners just as well, with only slightly more dive in the front, barely noticeable. The psycho front-back teeter toter thing it did with blacks over wavy road surfaces is gone. Its still much firmer than stock, but more controlled and less harsh. I am happy with how its riding now, and based on this experience I would recommend either these springs or Eibachs to be matched with the Bilsteins and save the Blacks for Konis which, by the sounds of it have less compression and more rebound dampening, as it should be, especially since the adjusters are for rebound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 ^^Excellent feedback Brandon!!! Thanks for the update! GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodwingg2 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Guys, I am looking for the lowering springs for my car. I look across the website they do not have specific lowering springs made for 2014 subaru legacy. Is that okay if I choose lowering springs for 5th gen (2010-2012 LGT) ? Will it fit directly ? The one that I am looking for is Tein S.Tech, they do not make the springs for 2014 Legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY KEN Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 ...from race comp engineering. Tell him Crazy Ken from the legacy gt forums sent you. He may have what you are looking for. CK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GravityGear Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 crazy ken lives!!!! those s-techs will annihilate your struts btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 crazy ken lives!!!! those s-techs will annihilate your struts btw. Yes... ...and then fredrik and gteaser can start pushing konis "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 And....you can be the first to try the Koni's with S-Techs. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodwingg2 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 crazy ken lives!!!! those s-techs will annihilate your struts btw. what do you mean by annihilate the struts ? will it make my struts go bad ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 what do you mean by annihilate the struts ? Will it make my struts go bad ? rotfl.... "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Yes, a lot quicker than the stock springs. Your '14 struts will last longer than the '10-'12 struts. But honestly, after riding on my H&R's with the stock struts for about 2 months, I don't know why anyone would ever want to do it, it was aweful. I couldn't wait for the Koni's and for good reason. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuck16 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Since I have the Eibachs on stock struts and just passing 50k, i was looking to upgrade and go Bilsteins and Blacks, but Brandon's input leads me to believe that just adding the Bilsteins may be the way to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieLove1010 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Finally, found the correct thread. I am on Tein S Tech lowering springs with OEM struts (Bought brand new struts for the springs) and I am pretty positive my struts are donzo, I put them on at 54k, im now at 74k.. I have looked into the Tein Street Basis Coilovers and I am pretty set on those, only thing is, I've that they weren't adjustable.. should I believe that? Also, if you think I'm making the wrong decision with these please state your case and save me the hassle! Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 ^^^ If you want to go with tein coilovers, get the "flex". Or, you can keep your tein springs and add #### inserts and rear shocks. "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieLove1010 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 hmm, what would you recommend for struts then? OEM isn't doing it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 #### adjustables. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieLove1010 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Don't wanna sound dumb, or anything- what does #### mean? And your saying keep my springs but just get adjustable struts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Did you even read the posts in this thread that were posted as recently as the past 2 days? Someone with the same springs as you asking the same question....and....getting feedback. And there are specific threads on that specific shock choice as well. Imagine that!! GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieLove1010 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I apologize for repeating the question as another member posted it "2 days ago" Thank you for the help that you've given me thus far. Regards- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Koni Yellow Adjustable Shocks. FTW!!! Don't get us wrong, we are glad to help and discuss the options with you, but in all fairness, this is not my job, it's a volunteer position. I don't at all mind helping someone who demonstrates that they are also helping themselves. Do some reading, use the search function and anything you don't understand, ask the question and we would be glad to provide you with knowledge. Edited March 10, 2015 by GTEASER GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieLove1010 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I just made sure I went through and read it, I will do this from now on. Thank you for being kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon.mol Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 The first post of this thread needs to get updated with all the new information this community has gathered. More info on the Konis, differences between Konis and Bilsteins, ideal spring/strut pairings for various purposes (lowering, ride, cornering, etc), part numbers for toe arms, trailing arms, lower control arms, end links, etc from all the known brands. There are at least 10 brands of rear adjustable toe arms that fit our cars, for example. Whiteline Megan Cusco Gtspec Superpro SPL Spc Hardrace ...more But many of these thing are listed based on other vehicles (08-14 wrx and brz, for example) and its not always clear what will work and what won't. Also things like end link / strut compatibility and end link sway bar compatibility (length/angles)... Would be great to boil it all down. I'd be glad to contribute, as I am sure others here would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon.mol Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Since I have the Eibachs on stock struts and just passing 50k, i was looking to upgrade and go Bilsteins and Blacks, but Brandon's input leads me to believe that just adding the Bilsteins may be the way to go? By the way... If I were to lower again, I would either buy Eibachs for the steins or buy Konis for the blacks. I would never in a million years pair the Bilsteins and blacks again. I don't believe for a second that those were designed to be together. The Bilsteins were clearly valved to be an upgrade strut for OEM springs. Super tough...will last forever, but just aren't valved for 240lb springs. I wouldn't hesitate to say that they would work well with '10/'11/'12 springs even. They just don't have enough rebound dampening for the blacks, and they have too much secondary compression damping for a forgiving ride if you have that much spring rate. However. Since you don't have Bilsteins already, my vote is buy Konis and you will surely be happy. Not sure if anyone has that combo, but it sounds like it would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GravityGear Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The first post of this thread needs to get updated with all the new information this community has gathered. More info on the Konis, differences between Konis and Bilsteins, ideal spring/strut pairings for various purposes (lowering, ride, cornering, etc), part numbers for toe arms, trailing arms, lower control arms, end links, etc from all the known brands. There are at least 10 brands of rear adjustable toe arms that fit our cars, for example. Whiteline Megan Cusco Gtspec Superpro SPL Spc Hardrace ...more But many of these thing are listed based on other vehicles (08-14 wrx and brz, for example) and its not always clear what will work and what won't. Also things like end link / strut compatibility and end link sway bar compatibility (length/angles)... Would be great to boil it all down. I'd be glad to contribute, as I am sure others here would be. can't AST get some coilover love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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