PhillyWilly Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I have an 07 with smfw so Ill refinish mine. I dont have a garage or the time so will probably pay someone to do the work; which is why Im leaning toward paying more for a better clutch at this point. I dont want to pay for labor twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Samson Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Yeah, labor is so ridiculous for this job I think that's a good idea. Make sure to find a shop that will let you bring the parts- that should save a lot of money. Has anyone checked on the FJK1001 kit on amazon? the one without a flywheel? should be like, $200.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iggybdawg Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 F'n A! I saw this thread a month ago when it was $313 on amazon and thought "should I buy it and store it till my clutch goes out?.... nah..." and now my clutch is going out and it's $630 on Amazon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eb50 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 F'n A! I saw this thread a month ago when it was $313 on amazon and thought "should I buy it and store it till my clutch goes out?.... nah..." and now my clutch is going out and it's $630 on Amazon. I have a spare I paid 500ish for. I'll do 500 + shipping. Pm me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iggybdawg Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Too late, used my prime and that I have too many friends working at amazon, and it's still 10% off msrp to justify buying it earlier today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltasierrahotel Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I had this clutch put in 250 miles ago and have had a CEL for 4th (and occasionally 2nd) 4th cylinder misfires ever since. Could be a fluke, but I've heard that lightweight flywheels can cause phantom misfires. I've tried other things (plugs, coil packs, fuel injectors, intake manifold gaskets). Has anyone else experienced this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Dellta do you have a LWFW and a LWpulley? If so, you need to go back to stock pully. If not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltasierrahotel Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 um...I should probably know this, but does the lightweight pulley come as part of the clutch kit? If not, I have a stock pulley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Dont you need to retune for the lwfw? I'm looking around for a new clutch and maybe flywheel, but this is all so confusing. I read somewhere if the fw is to light problems will happen, unless its tuned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltasierrahotel Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I could be wrong, but I think we're wrongly equating single mass flywheel with lightweight flywheel. It would be great to see the specs of the FJK1001FW flywheel side by side with the OEM dual mass for 05, but if I'm not mistaken, this is the same clutch and flywheel combo that comes stock on later 4th gen LGTs with the same motor/tune. So it shouldn't be a problem, I don't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I am having the same trouble as well, I was looking to buy the Exedy FF502 Lightweight Racing Flywheel, which I assumed was a single mass flywheel. Not sure of the difference between lightweight and single mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltasierrahotel Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I am having the same trouble as well, I was looking to buy the Exedy FF502 Lightweight Racing Flywheel, which I assumed was a single mass flywheel. Not sure of the difference between lightweight and single mass. All I meant was that just because a flywheel is single mass doesn't necessarily mean it's lightweight. I don't believe mine is a lightweight flywheel, whereas the one you're looking at clearly is. Correct me if I'm wrong here, folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Lightweight is to single-mass as square is to rectangle. Generally speaking all lightweight flywheels are single mass, much like all squares are rectangles. However not all single mass flywheels are "lightweight" just like there are many rectangles that are not squares. The WRX SMFW is something like ~25lbs versus 30lbs+ for the DMFW (IIRC). Most aftermarket lightweight flywheels are in the 10-15lb range. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltasierrahotel Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Lightweight is to single-mass as square is to rectangle. Yes, that's what I meant to express. Lightweight flywheels are a subset of single mass ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Exedy FF502 is 12.7lbs per the catalog here. (page 41) The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Samson Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Exedy FF502 is 12.7lbs per the catalog here. (page 41) I can verify this from personal experience. The flywheel that comes with the FJK1001FW kit is much, much, much, much, MUCH, MUCH lighter than the stock DMFW's in 05-06's. No tune needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltasierrahotel Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Wow, that's a lot of much. If it's that much lighter, isn't it possible it would cause some issues with phantom misfires? Nice avatar, by the way. My sister got me the tshirt for Christmas cause I'm always quoting that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Samson Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 well, I didn't notice anything for the 250 miles I got to drive it before the turbo blew...so I'm probably not the best resource for that since I tuned the car right after I replaced the turbo. And I'm not kidding about the weight difference. It was actually somewhat difficult to lift out the old DMFW out of the car- its got to be on the order of 50-60lbs. The difference is staggering. And thanks- I'm patiently awaiting the mods to increase the avatar size limit so I can use one of my snazzy gifs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle humjaba Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Looking at getting one of these, as my TOB has recently started chattering. I see it for $554 on rockauto, $600+ on amazon. Fleabay has some, but it looks like they're trying to bundle off-brand flywheels, and I want none of that. Any recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 So the FJK1001FW comes with the FF502 which is the 12.7lb flywheel, and its supposed to be 2007+ oem, but some people say it causes misfire cels? Clutches suck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The WRX single mass flywheel is OEM on '07-'09 LGT, and will not cause misfires. You need a single mass flywheel (OEM or aftermarket) to run nearly all aftermarket clutches. Aside from that, either option is lighter than the dual mass flywheel which helps the engine rev more "freely". The aftermarket lightweight flywheels just happen to be far lighter than the Subaru single mass flywheel, and running a lightweight flywheel in conjunction with a lightweight crank pulley has been said to cause misfires. I have not personally witnessed this however. Not trying to hijack the thread, but let me know what parts you are looking for and I will quote them uncle humjaba. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Outback-Legacy-Baja-H4-2-5L-Turbo-Clutch-Flywheel-Pressure-Plate-Exedy-FJK1001FW-/130562177726?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3ABaja%7CEngine+-+Liter_Display%3A2.5L%7CSubmodel%3ATurbo&hash=item1e661cbabe&vxp=mtr Bought that for 537 free shipping, it shipped monday, got it tuesday..... and its genuine, exedy box, exedy flywheel and everything, I checked exedys website for the how to spot a genuine exedy parts and its legit, packaging, instructions, an authentic Exedy OEM pro kit. Ive bought parts from am auto before. I just installed it and the clutch is light and strong, and my engine seems to love it, and so do I. I took a gamble with ebay, but I had bought parts from that guy before so I decided to gamble. Thought I should share the find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Wish I still had the boxes and packaging to show pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyWilly Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Any updates from anyone running FJK1001 with or without the flywheel? How has it been holding up? Would you do it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Samson Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 3500 Miles on this kit now, with flywheel. 250 miles after installation, my oem turbo blew. So I am actually running it as a bastardized stage 3 with no fuel system upgrades on a BNR 18g turbo. That means its getting more top end power, but less mid range. Seems to be holding up great, although I expect it to live a short and hard life overall as supporting mods are completed for my turbo. My wife can drive it fine with the lighter flywheel, and she's not exactly a pro with the clutch pedal. I would say anyone on stage 1 or less should definitely consider this kit more than adequate, and the best bang for the buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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