xt2005bonbon Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 People who do 1/4 mile run, does your clutch stink afterwards? of course I am sure you have aftermarket ones. But still, does it stink in the cabin after? btw, I found this thread on a jeep forum mentionning a very similar issue a guy was having with his patriot. Note that the first post on page 3 of that thread has a very interesting explanation about some kind of "electronically controlled coupling" attached to the rear diff. Read through it and see what you think. Interesting stuff. May explain (at least for their vehicle) why the guy got a clutch stink after playing in the snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 the only way the clutch would stink is if it is slipping excessively or if the driver is riding the pedal and making it slip excessively. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz98gt Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 ^ +1. I'm still putting my money on the diffs, OR crap getting on the exhaust and cooking it. Or both haha...just my $0.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestratomaster Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 this sounds like the most fun, possibly life threatening game that is in existence. Also had problems with a na forester we would do drift running with.. Ie find no maintenance roads after a big windy snow storm, hit 60-70 mph and try to plow through a 3-5 ft high drifts. Bring lots of people and shovels... Not only would the car start to overheat because the rad is plugged solid with snow, belts would squeal, and so much snow would start to melt and freeze packing the clutch fork lever back and open making te clutch slip... Snow will find it's way into the bellhousing too..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz98gt Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 ^^ I'll stick with the drifting. I don't wanna do that to any car maybe a lifted jeep, or an old old beater that we could dukes of hazzard with, but not anything else. The risk sounds like it's worth the reward though hahah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredraud Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 It was an eastern car all rotted to sh@t. Had a full cage holding it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz98gt Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 It was an eastern car all rotted to sh@t. Had a full cage holding it together.  Well in THAT case... OP, any new updates? Did you go do any snownuts lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 Well in THAT case... OP, any new updates? Did you go do any snownuts lately? Have not done any snownuts yet. Temperature up here was 5F last week then went up like 45F and lots of snow has melted. Now back to 28F and now it is pure ice everywhere (and I mean it). I have studded tires and I don't want to loose my studs yet.. But I will definitely try it again in an open field. Anybody checked the Jeep forum link I gave in post #51? Any thoughts? How about my question about the 1/4 mile people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz98gt Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Interesting topic on that forum. Well...the TCS system that you newer legacy/outback folks have, I don't think is modulated by braking the wheel that's slipping to get optimal traction. Again, that's my guess, so a more knowledgable person please chime in and correct me if I'm wrong. But either way, I don't have a TCS system on mine, and I still get a very distinct smell after the donuts. It smells like clutch, but I don't have one (lame, I know). But I'd bet that although our cars are different, we're both smelling the same kind of thing, and it's most likely the same root cause. I still like the exhaust-cooking-snow-and-other-debris idea, but I have a feeling that's not just the only factor at play here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 only subarus with VSC use brakes as part of the awd system My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 We have so far as many votes for 'clutch slipping only' and 'cluctch+diff slipping'. So that means lots of us still don't know for sure.. Another moderator on the 'subaruoutback' forum thinks diff: HERE. Some other guy also over on Nasioc. I am seriously now leaning to diffs. I think 98% diff and maybe 2% actual clutch (not even).  note: funny when you do a google search with the keywords of this thread's title, most of the results on the search page comes from subaru car forums. And that thread is the currently the first link provided . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz98gt Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Cool, we are learning! now, how to diagnose this issue...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 don't do stupid human tricks.... issues solved My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted December 7, 2010 Mega Users Share Posted December 7, 2010 Or continue doing the donuts until something breaks. That will let you know what is causing the smell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Or continue doing the donuts until something breaks. That will let you know what is causing the smell. Yep, what he said.  Some people never learn... 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it.  Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestratomaster Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 i was doing some drifting last night...i think it is definitely the diffs that make the smell. theres not really anyway it could be the clutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz98gt Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I still think it's either the diffs or the debris cooking on the hot exhaust. If your clutch is very very worn, you might be slipping it, but unless you're shifting or resting your left foot on the pedal, then it should not slip at all. Plus, the wheels are usually spinning like crazy trying to get traction while donuting, so it's not like there's alot of load on the driveline that could back up to the clutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 it's not the clutch damnit!!!! If the clutch was slipping in snow in 1st, it would slip in every other gear in normal driving. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 it's not the clutch damnit!!!! ^ :lol:. love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zavar Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 What about exhaust getting in through the vents in the trunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 possible, but that smells like exhaust, not burning ass My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted December 8, 2010 Mega Users Share Posted December 8, 2010 burning ass does have a very distinct smell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 yes, yes it does My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boymk123 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 were u all by yourself or u were with another dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 are you suggesting he was with another dude and the two of them caused the burning ass smell? My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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