Hops Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I threw 2 CELs and it is two cylinders. I planned on going a step colder on plugs anyways so if this doesn't fix it, I can change the coil. I can clear and read CELs with my AccessPORT. Buy my cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 The only reason I should be misfiring is my plugs Or faulty injector, coilpack, tune I can keep going if you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hops Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Just ordered them! Buy my cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hops Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I'm sure it's just plugs so it's cool. I plan on upgrading everthing anyways so here is the first step. Buy my cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 What does your current plugs look like? Any evidence that they're causing your misfires? I agree with RC0032, you'll want to troubleshoot before you change out to the colder plugs. If you're using the AccessPORT, what happens when you reflash to stock, using the stock plugs? Do you still misfire? <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hops Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Yeah I had to install my factory downpipe and I also unmarried my AP when I had some warranty work done and I was still misfiring. I totally agree as well but I'm Stage 2+ and I planned on upgrading the plugs and the injectors anyways so it's alright for now. I'll keep ya posted. Buy my cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msb175 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 question. whats a knuckle extension? and are the plugs THAT deep that a 12" extension is needed? just making sure so i have all the right tools before i do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostjunkie Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 All you need and want is a short 4" extension. Any longer and you won't be able to get it past the frame rails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 ^ +1 - and msb175, I believe a "knuckle extension" is what is also referred to as a "universal joint," which allows the ratchet to work at off-angles. --- JDMChizad - Hummmmmm..... Have a look-see and see what the plugs look like (also, check their gap - maybe they were just out-of spec?), and I'd honestly have on-hand both the OEM as well as the one range colder plugs, so that you can "make adjustments" as you see fit. <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hops Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Cool... I'll be working on this on Monday Buy my cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msb175 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 ^ +1 - and msb175, I believe a "knuckle extension" is what is also referred to as a "universal joint," which allows the ratchet to work at off-angles. cool. thats what i was thinking it was. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy05 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 I'll be tackling this tomorrow with help .. (a buddy has more tools than I) .... +1 colder plugs here I come! I'll take picture of the stock plugs afterwards, will be interesting to see what almost 70k spark plugs look like. Wish me luck!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hops Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Good luck man let me know how it goes as I will be doing the same on Monday. You going with the LFR7AIX? Buy my cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Anyone know how much a new coil pack is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hops Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 I know for my Outback they are around a hundred bucks Buy my cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy05 Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 I think they are around 90 bucks or so, contact kingofparts they can hook you up. Btw, I did this today, changed the plugs out for 1 step colder ... I made a booboo though, the plug that plugs back into the coil pack. I broke the little tab off ... oops. I called subaru, and they only sell the whole engine wiring harness ... like 300 bucks ... so I wrapped the plug in black tape .. it seems to be pretty snug ... so time will tell I guess ... I need to find a junked car and cut the plug off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy05 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 So here is a picture of one of the spark plugs that I took out. http://members.cox.net/ohmer_stuff/tn_IMG_3723.JPG http://members.cox.net/ohmer_stuff/tn_IMG_3724.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostjunkie Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 So here is a picture of one of the spark plugs that I took out. http://members.cox.net/ohmer_stuff/tn_IMG_3723.JPG http://members.cox.net/ohmer_stuff/tn_IMG_3724.JPG That's a pretty good looking plug, especially for 70K miles. You might be running a touch leaner than you should, but probably nothing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy05 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Yeah I think that was from my previous tune that I was running .. I was pulling timing like crazy ... I am now running the TDC Stage 2 tune and things are much smoother, I was pretty happy with how they looked after 70k miles too now .. I just need to pray for my throw out bearing to stay intact until my clutch gets replaced on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I can't quite see the everything here at work - the monitor sucks, but from brother boostjunkie's comments and from what I can see here, it looks like he's spot-on in his assessment. How's the plug look from the other angle? Which cylinder was that from? And would you say that the others are well-represented by this one, too? For 70K, that looks nice, indeed. <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hops Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Yeah I think that was from my previous tune that I was running .. I was pulling timing like crazy ... I am now running the TDC Stage 2 tune and things are much smoother, I was pretty happy with how they looked after 70k miles too now .. I just need to pray for my throw out bearing to stay intact until my clutch gets replaced on Thursday. So did you get the new plugs in? I'm just waiting for UPS to get to my house! I paid extra for 3 day shipping and I bought these damn things on Thursday, so they better be here by now! Buy my cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy05 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I do have another picture, but its at home, all 4 plugs looked like this actually .. I'll take a group picture of them tonight ... yes I put in 1 step colder plugs. My car ran a bit rich at first when I was done, since I had to re-flash my TDC Stage 2 real-time map back on .. but once the ECU learned things again the car runs like it did before. I want to say the butt dyno says things feel better ... but I have been easy going since my throw-out bearing is going. I can really hear it now when I push the clutch pedal in ... so the car is staying at work for a couple of days till I can take the car into the shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hops Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Ok... I will finally begin this project this evening. I'm hoping the plugs are the only cause of my misfiring. UPS didn't bring my plugs until late Monday when it was almost already dark and I've had to work all week so I will update later... Buy my cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hops Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 So the box says not to gap the plugs... I purchased the LFR7AIX. Buy my cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostjunkie Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 So the box says not to gap the plugs... I purchased the LFR7AIX. They are usually really close right out of the box, but you can gap the plugs you just have to be really careful and not put any stress on the iridium tip. Run a gap between .026" to 0.28". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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