rkl303 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Just finished the install. Took 1 and a 1/2 days because it was my first time using a springs compressor and the oversized claws on the compressor and with the way the koni rear coils coil very tightly at the top made it a huge PITA to install. Also had to reassemble twice on all 4 struts because I stupidly decided to try and go with the OEM top hat nuts instead of the 19mm Koni nuts and they just kept spinning when I lowered the car. Overall impressions is the car is very forgiving over poor quality highway roads and gave very little body roll while going in a circle for the on ramp. Definately love it and wish I had done springs much sooner when I took that circle. Sort of wish I had switched to my summer tires to try it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCwagon Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 With a good alignment you will absolutely love them. Don't be afraid to play around with the settings. I ran them a little too soft for my springs at first (Rallitek) and they were a little bouncy. I firmed up the dampers and I now have - no bounce, a firm but compliant ride, and very little body roll. A million times better than the factory struts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortal2None Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Bump for a question. RK and KC, what are you using for springs? The Epic's listed here or stock/pinks/etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortal2None Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Number 2 in your list is all you really need. At what level of front end drop would this kit be needed? (> 2"?) is it needed for a conservative drop like when using pinks? (1/2" I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkl303 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Epic springs here. I thought the rears were a PITA to get to compress because I chose the wrong number of coils to compress but feel is completely different from the slopyness of the stock setup. I can't say if its more the springs making the difference or the struts but definately way more comfortable than my friends bug eyes on stock struts w/ I think pinks for long trips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Now offering the Koni/Epic (or any spring you want) as a bolt in package. Konis already installed in OEM bodies with springs and top hats. Ready to bolt in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperhawkLGT Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Price? Very interested in that. Do you want the originals back as cores, or for a price reduction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 $1100 delivered to CON US. Koni with Epic. Full bolt in package (front and rear). Plus $150 core fee. Refunded when I get your OEM's back. Need everything but front and rear springs and rear struts. So total is $1250 up front. $150 is refunded. I anticipate you spending $40-$50 to ship back to me. Should put total at $1150. I see that as $850 for the parts. $150 for the labor and $100 for shipping to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subadozer Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 From my research it looks like the only option I have for improving the handling of my OBXT using dampers and not lowering significantly are the KYB GR2's with Rallitek springs. On this basis I'm assuming this walkthrough wouldn't apply to me and that there's no way to adapt Koni's to an Outback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Not without lowering the Outback to LGT height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneskiian Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) Just found this walkthrough. Well done Rick! Wish I'd had this when installing mine although I had help by experienced hands so it went pretty smoothly. Except when I tried to help and installed the rear spring perch upside down. I've got the original Eibach springs on my wagon with a 1/4" "saggy butt" spacer in the rear to accommodate the extra weight of the wagon's rear end. Pics here... On stock wheels. And on 18 X 8 GC05's. Cheers! Edited March 8, 2011 by goneskiian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesej05 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 So you need to do these modifications to the stock struts to make the aftermarket ones fit? (such as the drilling and all that jazz). If so I think I may just go with a spring install instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 This modification is only necessary for installing the Koni front shock inserts. If you are going to do a spring install this is not that much more work for the benefit of proper damping. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesej05 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Does any place sell plug and play kits so to speak were you don't HAVE to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
executor485 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Does any place sell plug and play kits so to speak were you don't HAVE to do this? There's a vendor on here that sells this setup as a full bolt on kit, you have to send back your stock suspension after the swap to get the core charge back. It's like 1250 total with 150 back when he gets your stock suspension back. If I pass you on the right, I'm flipping you off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyT Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Msprank is working on my setup this weekend. I'm having a local speed shop install them and disassemble the OEM suspension to send back for the core charge refund. I'll post my experience, but I believe it will be seamless. Basically, an out-of-the-box bolt-on solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tito_b0y Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 So, do you need spacers for the sedan to get rid of the saggy butt? 2006 SWP 3.0R 5EAT VDC BBQ 2008 OBP 2.5i 4EAT BBQ [RIP] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Did you look at my pictures in post #5? There is no saggy butt with this combo. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tito_b0y Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Yes, many times, wondering if you used the spacers Thanks for clarifying! 2006 SWP 3.0R 5EAT VDC BBQ 2008 OBP 2.5i 4EAT BBQ [RIP] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispyvu Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 just a quick nooby question, the epic springs come with a clear rubber tubing on them like can be seen in step#12 of the walkthrough, are those supposed to stay on or supposed to be taken off for the install ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Leave them on. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brum Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 No saggy butt here http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/rustycoupe/IMG_20110228_125858.jpg http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/rustycoupe/IMG_20110220_171753.jpg Great thread guys. I never thanked you when I put these on a couple months ago. It really is easy...the cutting scared the crap out of me but it went great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher0117 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 has anyone found the need to cut the oem bumpstops or buy shorter ones with this strut/spring combo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Nope. Worth a shot if you want to recoup a bit of compression stroke, but not necessary by any means. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher0117 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 If I do cut the oem bumpstops, I was thinking no more than .5" and on the big end to keep as much progressiveness as possible. Or should I cut the smaller end? How much can be removed before running into the troubles with the koni strut bottoming out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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