Visualfx Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Not ro ruin but to add to all the fun... http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74841 Anyone know why it was a no go for those headers in the other post? I tried searching with no luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 Probably because if they were actually doing all the welding and grinding of welds he claimed it would cost too much. I see the ground welds in the pics. I am sure the eBay version does not have this. But I can tig weld the inner surfaces and grind myself. A buddy has a tig welder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visualfx Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 OK makes sense now. Guess that's why there on eBay for that price. still a great deal especially if you can do the work yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenNorthLGT Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Probably because if they were actually doing all the welding and grinding of welds he claimed it would cost too much. I see the ground welds in the pics. I am sure the eBay version does not have this. But I can tig weld the inner surfaces and grind myself. A buddy has a tig welder. That's cheating!...lol...you'll corrupt the test results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 I'm willing to buy two sets and "fix" one, while leaving one "as is". This could get "fun" as long as my turbo doesn't eat anything, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 Alright. Headers are delivered and pics taken. I am crazy, but because the EL headers were $65 delivered, I went ahead and ordered a set of Un-EL headers too, lol. Both sets of headers delivered for $100. This is what you can get for $100 on eBay (hope some are sitting down, cause I know your gonna be shocked). First the Un-El headers Pic #1 boxes on arrival Pic #2 M2 Performance (huh?) Pic #3 Both headers in their boxes Pic #4 Down a flange Pic #5 " " " Pic #6 Down the collector Pic #7,8,9 Header at angles Pic #10 outside welds on collector Notice the welds are clean. Also notice the inside of the pipes at flanges have been spot welded and ground down. Actually quite a bit of work involved. Much nicer than expected. Remember I paid approx $50 for each header (delivered). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 Now the EL headers. it has been pointed out before that these headers looked like the BoostJunkie headers that never came into production. Hmmmm... Where is BoostJunkie getting his stuff? These are EXACTLY like the headers BoostJunkie was showing off. Tig welded inside and out with inside welds ground down for air flow, WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pic #1, 2 The headers Pic #3 Down the collector Pic #4.5 Down flanges Pic #6 Outside welds on collector Pic #7,8 Welds Welds are clean. Welded inside and out! Inside welds are ground down for smooth air flow. Can't see down the flex pipe, so no insight on the strength of the flex section. Biggest question is which to install first? They both look decent (for the money). I am surprised enough that I just ordered the matching up pipe for $30 delivered. I will compare it to my Cobb up pipe when it gets here. Stay tuned for that. Until then... What the heck do you all think? I think I scored some decent pipes for DIRT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Tank Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Wow! They don't look half bad. I say go unequal first What kind of power increase are you expecting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Maybe 10-15HP. They are going to be part of a stage 3 build up. I'm still light headed from opening the box(s) and finding two sets of headers that weren't cracked or broken already, and I paid $100 delivered for BOTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJLGT Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 is there a link for the UEL header on ebay i can only find the EL ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Here is the eBay store for the seller I got them from http://stores.ebay.com/surewinproducts Here is an active link to an auction for the UEL header from this same seller http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/02-03-04-05-06-Subaru-WRX-STI-header-manifold-4-2-1-New_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3efae85eb5QQitemZ270497504949QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories The asking price is currently $49.99. I paid $15.50 plus shipping. The auction(s) I won had a starting bid of $9.99. From the sellers feedback he does the $9.99 starting bid quite often. Maybe he noticed that he was shipping two headers to the same address and one was purchased for $20.50 and the other for $15.50 (plus shipping). But I would keep an eye out. I just bought an upipe from him this morning for $9.99 plus $20 shipping. Yeah, for $30 I got an upipe. If it is anything like the headers its a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattg Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 It's good you got 2 sets because those are disposable headers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 From what I read the general consensus is all headers are throw away. Spend $700-$1000 and they crack in a year or so. Thats the point of this "experiment". These are the same headers sold by several "manufacturers" on nasioc. I got two sets for $100 delivered. If the headers last 6 months then the lifespan is "equal" to a $700 set of headers. We did the math on page 1 of the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 This gonna be fun, definately install th "BJ performance" EL header first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underpowerd Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 i'm entertained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Yeah, could be fun. I think in the end I will get a set of P/P manifolds and cross pipe from Grimmspeed. This seems to be the way to keep reliability. But I could not resist the temptation to "play" for the $100. Plus my dad has an 02 WRX. So, I can "regift" the headers and uppipe to him, lol. You think go for the EL ones first Shamar? I can install, pull some logs and extract an Airboy sheet to see if there are gains, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Up pipe showed up today. Ordered it yesterday. This is the $30 up pipe deliverd in 24 hours. WOW again. This is beginning to be UNREAL! Once again 1/2" flanges. Tig welded. Welded inside and outside. inside welds ground down for max air flow. Looks WAY better than the $30 I paid for it. These M2 parts might be selling dirt cheap on eBay, but they are worth a second look IMHO. Pics Pic #1, 2 the Box on arrival Pic #3 In the box Pic #4 The contents Pic #5,6 The pipe Pic #& 1/2" flanges Pic #9,10,11 The pipe inside. Welded inside and out. Inside welds ground down. Just like the headers. Pic #12,13 The outside welds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiskank Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Tank Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 That up pipe looks legit. After reading the flex pipe horror stories I might just have to replace my Megan piece with this one (pending fitment results, of course). This is definitely very interesting stuff. A pipe that fits is a pipe that fits, right? I am not at all opposed to spending less money. Thanks for being the testi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJLGT Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 thanks for the links, your pics look pretty legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 Way more legit than the price would have you think. I am hoping to get at least one set installed for a fit test this weekend. I figure if it goes on without too much gorilla work and doesn't leak its worth a shot. I will log it and compare before and after. Don't expect to do any long term testing, but you never know. I can't say it enough. The total price for a header and up pipe was $80. If the crap fits, doesn't leak and lasts 6 months it was probably worth the money. As for the up pipe. Jeez, the thing is solid, welds are good and has an EGT fitting. If it fits without leaking, it could be the DEAL OF THE YEAR. $30 delivered in 24 hours. Hard to beat (if it fits). If it doesn't fit I have some real shiny paper weights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenNorthLGT Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Def interested in the results for the up pipe as far as fitment goes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJLGT Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 why do I have a strange suspicion that if this stuff doesnt have fitment issues that this ebay seller is going to have a record month lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyMUN2k6 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Isn't the up pipe on a 08 catless!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 Yeah, I should email them and demand a piece of the action, lol. Still planning on a test fit this weekend. Will try to get pics as well. Not sure how good a shot I can get of the up pipe installed, but I can get under car shots of the headers for sure. Yes 08-09 OEM uppipe is catless. but this one is Shiny! Might be a larger pipe diameter too. I will measure that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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