Jacobpockros Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Run negative camber in the front. Get WRX control arms for a cheap, 20mm wider front track, run even thicker front swaybar (yes it WILL help). Actually you are incorrect. Adding a bigger front sway bar will create understeer if you don't upgrade the rear. Even if you upgrade both, the upgraded front sway will still create understeer. It's not a good setup I you want to increase your speed around a corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougeben83 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) Actually you are incorrect. Adding a bigger front sway bar will create understeer if you don't upgrade the rear. Even if you upgrade both, the upgraded front sway will still create understeer. It's not a good setup I you want to increase your speed around a corner Tell that to class-winning WRX's in SCCA autocross. Some of them run up to 32mm front swaybars. It has to do with the macpherson front suspension and its crappy camber curve that turns positive on compression. A big swaybar basically prevents the compression and helps keep the front end gripping. Most people probably haven't run a thick ENOUGH front swaybar to experience this. Higher rear end will transfer weight differently Than a vehicle with a level ride height. It takes less with the rear end raked to get it to come around. I should have mentioned I have the dampening on my fronts maxxed out and the rear at 2/3. Like I said, the actual height (or as you put it, "rake") of the front or back has no *direct* correlation with understeer/oversteer. You have a higher spring rate in the front, less suspension travel, and higher strut settings in the front - those things in of themselves will reduce understeer. Edited May 26, 2013 by rougeben83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobpockros Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Tell that to class-winning WRX's in SCCA autocross. Some of them run up to 32mm front swaybars. It has to do with the macpherson front suspension and its crappy camber curve that turns positive on compression. A big swaybar basically prevents the compression and helps keep the front end gripping. Most people probably haven't run a thick ENOUGH front swaybar to experience this. I think you are getting confused my friend. This was what I said: Actually you are incorrect. Adding a bigger front sway bar will create understeer if you don't upgrade the rear. Even if you upgrade both, the upgraded front sway will still create understeer. It's not a good setup I you want to increase your speed around a corner With that perfectly said, an upgraded Front Sway Bar will NOT increase your speed around a corner. It will increase your turn-in response. Great for autocrossers, but NOT great for increasing your speed while holding a turn. See what I'm trying to explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4REEL Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 This is a PHOTO thread... http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a231/wpfreeskier/977236_939852825679_219013530_o_zps0485ee3c.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmrican Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/27/ane8udeg.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougeben83 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I think you are getting confused my friend. This was what I said: With that perfectly said, an upgraded Front Sway Bar will NOT increase your speed around a corner. It will increase your turn-in response. Great for autocrossers, but NOT great for increasing your speed while holding a turn. See what I'm trying to explain? Last time I went to racing school, inducing more oversteer doesn't increase your cornering speed either. Care to explain? Because youre still limited by the traction circle of your tires. Read my statement again. By keeping the tires from getting into the positive area of the camber curve, you're able to retain more front end grip...last time I checked, front grip is good in all parts of the turn - not just turn-in. Try it yourself and you'll feel the car rotating in tight, mid-speed corners. Autocrossers are the extreme of this scenario, but you can easily apply this to a street setup. We're both trying to make suggestions to reduce understeer. Lets not turn this into who is lecturing who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1055 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 my bone stock miata will out handle 99% of legacys. back to PICTARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Père Foura Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 your bone stock miata is going to stuck in 6'' of snow, than im gonna toe it with my legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1055 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 your bone stock miata is going to stuck in 6'' of snow, than im gonna toe it with my legacy. Its tow, unless you plan on kicking it with your leggy. Little rainy day cell phone action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmrican Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Jeez man look at all them cars lol. The hottest car in that lot has to be that elantra lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1055 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 My shop.. our back lot. The sti is a co workers, beetle is my fiances. Elantra is some loaf I towed in haha.. and behind me is all our miatas.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasLegacy2.5GT Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 my bone stock miata will out handle 99% of legacys. back to PICTARS ^^Yea, I like it when girls driving Miata's out handle me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1055 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 ^^Yea, I like it when girls driving Miata's out handle me... If you ever drove one, you'd have a lot more respect for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmrican Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I once knew a guy in Florida who swapped a cobra engine into his miata. Thing was freaking fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1055 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I once knew a guy in Florida who swapped a cobra engine into his miata. Thing was freaking fast The ford 302 and the ls1 are common v8 swaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sludgeroo Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 My buddy and I are gonna boost his BP block in his na miata. Has a 6 spd from a nb mazdaspeed miata. Gonna be a sick little car. There is a reason skip barber uses them, perfect 50/50 weight distro from the factory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Gage Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 (edited) Unisphere Edited June 8, 2013 by Sean Gage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobpockros Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/02BHOutback/IMG_1403.jpg What car is this shift knob from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Gage Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Idk but the cluster doesn't look like it matches the car. Cool L7 steering wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1055 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 That's an outback.. 03-04, European model? The shift knob may be stock.. but looks very european-ey. Like vw/audi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmrican Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 My gfs BH and my BE http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/09/e7ujapap.jpg http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/09/upuma6e9.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000_LegacyOutback Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 What car is this shift knob from? looks like the 4th gen stock shift knob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rSTimpreza Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 It's a 06-07 Wrx shift knob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobpockros Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 My gfs BH and my BE http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/09/e7ujapap.jpg http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/09/upuma6e9.jpg What's your BE lowered on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmrican Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 What's your BE lowered on? Kyb gr2 with H&R springs. 1.5" in the front 1.3" in the rear. Original top hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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