SBT Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Fixed. I figured you'd chime in on that one. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groff Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 yes my bad, just flew cross country so was a lil spacey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
integroid Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Could someone just make a new post with all the parts that are needed for a 6mt swap into a 05+ LGT and then Sticky it?!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 ^^ Please do and let me know the link and I'll sticky it. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Could someone just make a new post with all the parts that are needed for a 6mt swap into a 05+ LGT and then Sticky it?!?!?!?! I've been planning to post info from my swap. The swap I did was "zero fabrication" one, all with bolt-on parts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimakf7 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I've been planning to post info from my swap. The swap I did was "zero fabrication" one, all with bolt-on parts... subscribed for results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
integroid Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I've been planning to post info from my swap. The swap I did was "zero fabrication" one, all with bolt-on parts... That would be awesome unclemat!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groff Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) There are basically 2 main options for turning your 5MT into a 6MT. Option #1: Transmission Choice: 2007+ LGT Spec B 6MT, 2004, 2005 STI 6MT Rear Differential Choice: 2007+ LGT Spec B R180, 2004+ STI R180, <2004 Legacy or you can use a regeared stock R160 as well with stock LGT rear axles Axles: Front - Stock LGT, Rear - 2007+ Spec B or custom Driveshaft Shop Axles Option #2: Transmission Choice: 2006+ STI 6MT Rear Differential Choice: Stock LGT R160 Axles: Front - Stock LGT, Rear - Stock LGT Etc: DCCD Controller for STI 6MT, 2005+ 2.5i LGT Auto Driveshaft (for Sedan or Wagon based on what you have currently) or 2007+ Spec B Driveshaft, appropriate 6MT flywheel and clutch, 2005 STI front axle seals (recommended), 6MT shift linkage, 6MT shifter, 6MT shift knob (as a note, most donor sets more than likely won't have a knob as most have been robbed from the junkyards ), 6MT slave cylinder, 6MT clutch fork Quick Pros and Cons to the different components: <2004 Legacy Differential is not going to be a viscous limited slip (CON) 2007 Spec B 6MT does not contain a limited slip front differential (CON) 2006+ STI 6MT has a 1:1 stepper center differential which allows you to use your Stock R160 on the 07+ cars, if you use an 04-05 STI trans.. the GT 5MT came in 2005-2006 4.11FD 2007-2009 5MT 3.90FD (PRO - Cheaper CON - weaker rear diff if using the R160) Helpful links for those with lots of time: Hammer Down's 6MT Swap thread - "the original" NASIOC's Transmission forums P/N's: Spec B Rear Axles - 28421AG03B R180 Rear Axle Seals – 806732200 05 STi 6MT front half shaft seals: L/H 806735240 R/H 806735230 Tail Shaft Seal – 806735210 Edited April 22, 2010 by groff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groff Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 as requested: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2333430#post2333430 in rough outline, feel free to PM me suggestions and I'll update the thread as not to clutter it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeper8406 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 sounds expen$ive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j255c Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 it is, but well worth it. 06 TB EVO IX SE stock turbo monster subaru hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTGT Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Now how about swapping a 6 Speed into a 5eat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeper8406 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groff Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Now how about swapping a 6 Speed into a 5eat A little bit more difficult, but still doable. you'll need all of the above parts plus the clutch master cylinder and a new pedal setup (I'm guessing since the brake and clutch are on the same rotating assembly under the dash). will probably also need a new trim piece inside the cabin and shift boot . You'll now also need the 6MT transmission cross braces I would guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 ^^^ you'll also probably need to reprogram certain parts of the ECU if possible.... or swap ECUs My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbite3360 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Nice little write-up. I was wondering how hard it is for GT's to switch the 6MT the other day. I'd ask if anyone has done it on an N/A, but you probably couldn't even get it into 6th gear I can always dream though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutch Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Now if only DSS would offer upgraded Spec B style axles for use the R180, then we would have our cake and eat it too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
integroid Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Can we sticky this please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxiboy Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Which 6MT has a taller gearing? Is it the 2007 STi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxiboy Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I've been planning to post info from my swap. The swap I did was "zero fabrication" one, all with bolt-on parts... Please do as I prefer bolt-on OEM parts. Interested on how much this is going to cost me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z0rr0 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 There are basically 2 main options for turning your 5MT into a 6MT. Option #1: Transmission Choice: 2007+ LGT Spec B 6MT, 2004, 2005 STI 6MT Rear Differential Choice: 2007+ LGT Spec B R180, 2004+ STI R180, <2004 Legacy or you can use a regeared stock R160 as well with stock LGT rear axles Axles: Front - Stock LGT, Rear - 2007+ Spec B or custom Driveshaft Shop Axles Option #2: Transmission Choice: 2006+ STI 6MT Rear Differential Choice: Stock LGT R160 Axles: Front - Stock LGT, Rear - Stock LGT Etc: DCCD Controller for STI 6MT, 2005+ 2.5i LGT Auto Driveshaft (for Sedan or Wagon based on what you have currently) or 2007+ Spec B Driveshaft, appropriate 6MT flywheel and clutch, 2005 STI front axle seals (recommended), 6MT shift linkage, 6MT shifter, 6MT shift knob (as a note, most donor sets more than likely won't have a knob as most have been robbed from the junkyards ), 6MT slave cylinder, 6MT clutch fork Quick Pros and Cons to the different components: <2004 Legacy Differential is not going to be a viscous limited slip (CON) 2007 Spec B 6MT does not contain a limited slip front differential (CON) 2006+ STI 6MT has a 1:1 stepper center differential which allows you to use your stock R160 (PRO - Cheaper CON - weaker rear diff if using the R160) Helpful links for those with lots of time: Hammer Down's 6MT Swap thread - "the original" NASIOC's Transmission forums Groff, very nice.. FYI to everyone else, all this information was gathered by HAMMER DOWN, myself and groff, during our swaps.. this is real-world info, not speculation. for the rear diff: hammer down is running a re-geared WRX unit i am running a 2004 legacy auto 3.90 (just broke it ), so i am swapping the 05 LGT LSD carrier into the 3.90 legacy housing and groff is running an R180 and Spec.B Axels. (damn you! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groff Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Which 6MT has a taller gearing? Is it the 2007 STi? Yes. Groff, very nice.. FYI to everyone else, all this information was gathered by HAMMER DOWN, myself and groff, during our swaps.. this is real-world info, not speculation. for the rear diff: hammer down is running a re-geared WRX unit i am running a 2004 legacy auto 3.90 (just broke it ), so i am swapping the 05 LGT LSD carrier into the 3.90 legacy housing and groff is running an R180 and Spec.B Axels. (damn you! ) yea, sorry, didn't have any shout outs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I am running R180 Torsen w/SpecB axles, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Cost of parts (if possible, new, since that's more consistent) and approximate number of labor hours needed to swap to a 6mt? Transmission including clutch assembly/flywheel, or do you need to purchase that seperately? I'm wondering because I've seen plenty of clutch jobs run $1500 for parts and labor, and it seems like this could be an option if it's $2500-3000 and you plan on keeping the car for a long time. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmorgan Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 So lets say I were to go the route of an 05 STi 6spd for my 05 Outback XT. The outbacks have an R180 rear diff with a 4.444 final drive gear ratio. Would this be compatible? There is an 05 STi at a salvage yard not too far from me that is nearly complete available for partout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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