chenc544 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 ;1991900']It doesn't take a clairvoyant to realize that the Ralliart has shown up to a gunfight with the WRX armed with only a knife. It's probably more accurate to say that it showed up to a knife fight and got ambushed by the WRX carrying a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest heightsgtltd Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 ;1991900']The new WRX has better summer performance tires and better suspension than the old WRX. The Ralliart's tires are only 215 mm wide and mounted on heavy 18" rims while the new WRX's tires are 225 mm wide and mounted on lighter 17" rims. The Ralliart is about 330 lbs heavier than the WRX and yet it has 28 fewer horsepower. And the Ralliart's transmission won't let you launch it hard without seriously burning up a clutch' date=' so that kills its 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. It doesn't take a clairvoyant to realize that the Ralliart has shown up to a gunfight with the WRX armed with only a knife.[/quote'] The Ralliart comes with the same DSG style auto that the evo does. No manual. Which division of Subaru do you work for again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in CT Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 The Ralliart comes with the same DSG style auto that the evo does. No manual.Duh! From Edmunds: Lazy Launch On the drag strip, the Ralliart's transmission programming didn't do it any favors either. If you simply whack the throttle to the floor from a standstill, the tach slowly ramps up to about 3,500 rpm, and the clutch gently releases the car. Smooth, yes. Fast, not so much. As a result, 60 mph arrives in about 6.6 seconds (6.2 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip). Of course, there are a couple tenths to be found if you don't mind burning the clutch down by simultaneously standing on both the throttle and the brakes before leaving the line, but we'd hate to be the next in line to drive a car so grossly and childishly abused. The twin-clutch transmission clicks off upshifts measured in milliseconds, so by the end of the quarter-mile, the Ralliart is really feeling its oats with a 14.8-second run at 94.6 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest heightsgtltd Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Interesting.. Haven't heard anything about burning clutch down with the DSG or other systems But you didn't answer my question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsidedetail Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I'm currently in Canada right now prepping them for the World Debut of the 2009's...These cars are SWEET!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in CT Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I'm currently in Canada right now prepping them for the World Debut of the 2009's...These cars are SWEET!!!Just to let you know - the World Debut of the 2009s happened last Thursday in California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 ;1991900'] It doesn't take a clairvoyant to realize that the Ralliart has shown up to a gunfight with the WRX armed with only a knife. Actually, I think the only thing it can compete with is the 2009 Impreza GT. If I was looking for something that was under $30K, and was quick/fan - regardless if it was a manual or auto - my first choice would be the 2009 WRX. The 2009 RalliArt vs 2009 WRX is a not contest - right off the bat, the WRX wins. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 ;1992743']Just to let you know - the World Debut of the 2009s happened last Thursday in California. Maybe, they are going to get pricing/option information as well. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobE Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 pricing info will be released on August 25th. http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawlwawl06 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Anywhere I can find larger pics of the debut??? I need wallpaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexster Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Anywhere I can find larger pics of the debut??? I need wallpaper scroll down on this page... http://www.media.subaru.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 This isn't going to help anything at the Ralliart will sell more units. ^ trader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 I think you mean traitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 ^ trader. What are you willing to trade with him? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobE Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 '09 Impreza fuel economy http://i34.tinypic.com/294osya.gif http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 18/25 for the WRX. So its 2 MPG worse in city driving. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTGT Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 18/25 for the WRX. So its 2 MPG worse in city driving. Interesting. But 40 more CHP haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 As I recall the Legacy's went down 1 MPG also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTGT Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 As I recall the Legacy's went down 1 MPG also. I guess Subaru is going backwars when it comes to gas mileage. Why not bring the 2.0 liter rex motor back out, throw on a vf39 and focus a tad on economy That combo would yield 27-30 on the highway I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawlwawl06 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 wouldn't the MPG be better with a 6MT b/c of highway/interstate cruising at lower rpms? Sayyyy like on the MS3? I think its 18/26 for the MS3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Im all for direct fuel injection across the line, 6 speeds for the higher powered models and for the base models CVTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjoecool85x Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Anybody hear any solid pricing on the 09 WRX's ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobE Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 pricing info will be released August 25th. http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drcaveman Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Holly body roll Batman Seriously my 1996 Impreza LX with 120,000 miles on it had less body roll than that. Granted it was a coupe alot lighter and no where near as fast, but come on SOA what happened to your old way thinking. Soft springs are one thing but lack of roll control is completely unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in CT Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Holly body roll Batman Seriously my 1996 Impreza LX with 120,000 miles on it had less body roll than that. Granted it was a coupe alot lighter and no where near as fast, but come on SOA what happened to your old way thinking. Soft springs are one thing but lack of roll control is completely unacceptable.WTF are you babbling about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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