mcumeda Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Here is a review for the European Legacy Turbodiesel. It says that it probably won't be coming to the US or Japan anytime soon, but hope remains. Here are some highlights: The boxer diesel produces 148 horsepower at 3,600 rpm and 258 pound-feet of torque at just 1,800 rpm. The engine is capable of 60.5 mpg. In top gear, the diesel takes 23.4 seconds to accelerate from 50 to 100 mph, a veritable sprint compared with the 37.0 seconds it takes a Legacy with a normally aspirated 2.0-liter gasoline engine to accomplish the same feat. As with almost every European turbodiesel, the Subaru employs common-rail technology for the new engine. The turbocharger is mounted below the engine and connected directly to the catalytic converter, an installation that's becoming more common in all kinds of engines because it promotes quicker light-off for the catalyst. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=124553?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..2.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW7RT Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 This is good news to hear especially if it came with a 6 speed, but Subaru should really consider having a more performance oriented I-drive to boost hp and torque a little when you want to. Then you'd have the best of both worlds not to mention there needs to be a manual wagon version too. Unfortunately the price will probably be too high to justify buying these vehicles. A 2.5i can get 400 mi to tank driving on the highway and 300-320 mi in city driving which is good for an AWD vehicle. If Subaru can pull this one off and offer the vehicle at a good price it'll be a money maker. This turbodiesel need to come to the states as a 2.5 with a manual wagon option. Subaru don't screw this one up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactojesse Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 This turbodiesel need to come to the states as a 2.5 with a manual wagon option. Subaru don't screw this one up!!! Hell, I'd buy it in the U.S. as a 2.0 MT wagon. It has plenty of torque already and the gas mileage is great! I'd turn the 2.0TD into my commuter/mountain bike car and use my 2.5GT wagon as a fun car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC GT Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I would buy one. I'm already planning on looking at the VW Tiguan TDI and the Honda Accord Diesel (Turbo?) when they come out. I'm interested in running biodiesel. Not necessarily for the treehugger aspect of it, but more the for FU to dependence upon foreign oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbcracken Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 It is between Audi, BMW & Subaru for me. Who ever gets a AWD Diesel Manual wagon to the states first gets my wallet. Cheers, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenc544 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 At present, the engine will not meet California's stringent air emissions regulations. "We would only introduce the car in the U.S. if it was legal in every state," says Yamamoto. "Meeting the California legislation is very hard and very expensive. We are researching it, but there is no timetable." Subaru estimates that fitting the particulate filter needed to make the engine fully compliant would add around $1,500 to the price of the car. Damn you CARB!!! Hopefully EPA wins it's case against Cali and CARB can go the way of dodo bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Im not sure what the cost are to certify the diesel but if Subaru got to the party before some of the big dogs did with their diesels ( and trust me its coming) they would likely win plenty of sales. I could see the marketing bragging rights now .... AWD , Consumer Reports praise AND 50 MPG ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruperts Trooper Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Hell, I'd buy it in the U.S. as a 2.0 MT wagon. It has plenty of torque already and the gas mileage is great! I'd turn the 2.0TD into my commuter/mountain bike car and use my 2.5GT wagon as a fun car. The new diesel is unlikely to be stretched in future, the cylinder bore spacings are closer than the 2.0 petrol - to make the engine a couple of inches shorter than the EJ - that does mean that a 3.0 H6D would be very compact, if they ever make one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in CT Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 The new diesel is unlikely to be stretched in future, the cylinder bore spacings are closer than the 2.0 petrol - to make the engine a couple of inches shorter than the EJ - that does mean that a 3.0 H6D would be very compact, if they ever make one.The cylinder bore spacing, technically called cylinder pitch, of the turbo diesel is identical to that of the EL15 (used in the Impreza), the EZ30 (used in the Legacy) and the EZ36 (used in the Tribeca). The turbo diesel engine is 61.3 mm (2.41 in) shorter than an EJ20 engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Good news the design is compact. 3.0L diesel would be sweet. I really do hope they are working on one. I am sure the 2.0 diesel is nice, but I am afraid it would not cut it after coming from 2.5 turbo gasser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Interesting stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruperts Trooper Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Autocar magazine, out this week in the UK, includes a brief article on the 200bhp version of the diesel going into Impreza WRX. Subaru designers have confirmed that a flat six diesel is being considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJW Performance Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I want one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobE Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I want one http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naimouasta Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 It is between Audi, BMW & Subaru for me. Who ever gets a AWD Diesel Manual wagon to the states first gets my wallet. Cheers, Mike +42139085094570932187 :spin::spin::spin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opie Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 This is the most interesting thing I have seen coming from Subaru in a long time...hopefully it makes it to the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P06781 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 They say it is now coming to the usa.... http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=201205 Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTDriver Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 I will be waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 They say it is now coming to the usa.... http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=201205 Jim This has been going around for awhile. Its not going to happen over night. This thing has to emissions standards first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naimouasta Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 according to the rep at the philly auto show, it'll be a 2010 model? the legacy will be redesigned before then? or just another facelift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenc544 Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Next gen Legacy should be MY10 or MY11. Subaru works with 5-6 years product cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fzanetti Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 It is between Audi, BMW & Subaru for me. Who ever gets a AWD Diesel Manual wagon to the states first gets my wallet. Cheers, Mike +100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 So far it looks like the Passat diesel wagon available in 09! Flavio Zanetti Boston, MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenc544 Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 R&T also has a little blurb on it. http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=6&article_id=6424 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edekba Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=124553/pageNumber=1 What do you think? Looks promising to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 where the hell are the video's curious to hear how the exhaust note sounds. nevermind found one [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo9wRfd4QkI]YouTube - Subaru Boxer Diesel at idle[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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