Philpug Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I like the rails on my 06. I use them year round. I drive 25-30K/yr. I want a diesel. Stick or auto, I don't care. Legacy or Forester, I don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limeydriver Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Car magazine out of the UK just had a writeup on the Legacy Wagon Diesel. http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/Subaru-Legacy-Sports-Tourer-20TD-RE/?&R=EPI-5481 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenc544 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Car magazine out of the UK just had a writeup on the Legacy Wagon Diesel. http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/Subaru-Legacy-Sports-Tourer-20TD-RE/?&R=EPI-5481 49.6 mpg so that's ~41 mpg for the US. For comparison the UK Legacy 2.5SE gets 33.2 mpg (~28 mpg US) in their combined cycle, EPA rates our 2.5i at 20/27. I'm guessing the 2.0L turbo diesel could get ~40 mpg on the highway in the EPA testing. 0-60 in 8.5 sec, that's about the same as the 2.5i 5MT right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I would think that the MT 2.5i would be just a hair faster as I recall from the test drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Wonder whether the too light steering "feel" they complain about was due to tire pressures. I suspect that had something to do with it. SBT - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarra Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Every review I read on the Turbo Diesel boxer makes me want one just that much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallysquirrel Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 I'd imagine that the outback would be the first to get a TD, and not impreza or forester. Forester would be 2nd to get it. Impreza last. Outback sell the best of all subarus and would have the greatest advantage there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty1 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 It's Here (or for the US folks, It's There)!...2008 Geneva Auto Show... More info: http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2008/02/09/077192.html and from Subaru: http://www.boxerdiesel.com/en/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Hmmm, a picture there shows an IHI VF50 turbo in the diesel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbcracken Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 So, if my math is right, Subaru is claiming a combined 42.2 MPG. Pretty darn good. Too bad we'll never see it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 So, if my math is right, Subaru is claiming a combined 42.2 MPG. Pretty darn good. Too bad we'll never see it here. We will. In 2010 (calendar year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fzanetti Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Engine: 1998cc 4-cyl 16v diesel, 148bhp @ 3600 rpm, 258lb ft @ 1800 rpm Transmission: Five-speed manual, four-wheel drive Performance: 8.5sec 0-60mph, 126mph, 49.6mpg, 151g/km CO2 Flavio Zanetti Boston, MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallysquirrel Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I wonder what it puts down on the dyno. Engine hp and tq means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdoggydog Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I'm sooooooo getting one of these when it's eventually time to trade up from the current Legacy. Check out the Geneva link!http://www.motortrend.com/auto_shows/coverage/geneva/112_2008_geneva_motor_show_part_1/2008_subaru_outback_diesel.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MELegacyWagon1998 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Yep, the legacy wagon diesel looks great (http://www.boxerdiesel.com/en/index.html). I'd buy it as-is, with 2L diesel and 5MT. I'd MUCH MUCH prefer a wagon, but I'd consider a sedan if I had to. Prefer Legacy to Outback, but I guess I'm in a minority these days. I'm driving a 98 Legacy wagon 5MT...160K miles...running great...excellent car...would like to trade in for something that gets better MPG in a year or two. The current 2.5L Subies don't cut it, MPG wise...I need diesel/hybrid mileage what with the price of gas these days. I'll give Subaru a couple of years to get their act together, but I'll buy a Toyota next time if Subies are still getting 25-30MPG. Love the AWD here in Maine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommyh Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Prefer Legacy to Outback, but I guess I'm in a minority these days. Not around here at least. Martin Luther - "Who loves not women, wine and song remains a fool his whole life long." EL4NFZT7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty1 Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 An interesting article from a recent Autoweek. http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080227/FREE/618383884&SearchID=73311365598535 Since this is Subaru's first boxer diesel, I wonder how they will hold up in the long run... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwgassen Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I'm an activist in my spare time, and as a business exec., I know that getting the word to the decision makers is the most challenging aspect of bring about change. However, I've also found that it's not that difficult, if you put some effort and thought into it. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/subarudiesel Check out the petition and sign it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Just for fun I have captured the Subaru diesel commercial that they run right now: http://www.bedug.com/pics/subarudiesel.mpg I hope it works for you - plays actually best in Winamp while Windows Media Player is a little quirky but it plays there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Just for fun I have captured the Subaru diesel commercial that they run right now: http://www.bedug.com/pics/subarudiesel.mpg I hope it works for you - plays actually best in Winamp while Windows Media Player is a little quirky but it plays there too. Plays fine in Win MP. Other than the opening and closing frames, everything else is crystal clear. Decent, simple message. Now get it "here". SBT - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impulse Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Just for fun I have captured the Subaru diesel commercial that they run right now: http://www.bedug.com/pics/subarudiesel.mpg I hope it works for you - plays actually best in Winamp while Windows Media Player is a little quirky but it plays there too. hey, you should e-mail that video to SOA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLTek Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 signed i am not sure who's got it right america or europe. lets see, 1. diesel is more expensive than gas in US, eventhough it cost less to produce 2. cars are infinitely more customizable in europe starting with 5,6,7,8 or more options just for the engine (displacement, diesel, and turbo combinations) 3. alternate fuels such as natural gas and LP are readily available in Europe 4. list goes on/ well, my opinion is that us is making gas guzzlers so that the oil company executives and their buddies can make a lot of money and fast, the fact that diesel is expensive and all manufacturers are very slow to offer these in us only support this. subaru just bring the darn diesel to us, NOW !!! I'm an activist in my spare time, and as a business exec., I know that getting the word to the decision makers is the most challenging aspect of bring about change. However, I've also found that it's not that difficult, if you put some effort and thought into it. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/subarudiesel Check out the petition and sign it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 3. alternate fuels such as natural gas and LP are readily available in Europe In State College we have had hydrogen and natural gas for awhile. But I just noticed today that there is a station selling E85 and for $2.99 a gallon. Twas the first time I had ever seen E85 available. Regular costs $3.29 a gallon so given the 15-20% decrease in fuel economy when running off of E85 Im willing to bet that you would break even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Would you like to see an E85 capable Subaru? Not really, no. I am seeing an influx of PZEV Outbacks, which is weird because 6 months ago I had never seen even one. As this is the land of the Subaru Im hoping more of these get on the road so that my street smells less like ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason22 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I've long been a proponent of diesels...but after seeing diesel at $3.90 a gallon at the pump the other day, I'm having second thoughts...have to do some math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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