Whitestar Pilot Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Holy fork! When/where will the horsepower battle end? GM makes a pretty good traction control system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard, yes they make good ones, but when you have a 620hp car, and you try and launch with the TCS on, all thats gonna happen is it will keep your rpms below 3k and you wont be going anywhere fast, you need to turn off the TCS when racing. The vette with street tires and 620hp will be a high 11 second car because or traction issues, with drag radials a low 10s with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neelnug Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 The car will be a discussion piece, but hardly seems practically useable in any place that gets rain or snow. The non-V isn't quite sporty enough, and the -V is too powerful to be truly comfortable with Is 600hp usable anywhere but on the track? The V isn't designed to be practical unless you need to trade in your Z06 because you have to have a backseat when you are racing. My low tech GTO makes do just fine with snow tires. I don't believe the V will be too powerful to be comfortable. The S65 AMG doesn't seems to be uncomfortable with 604hp and 738 TQ. (I don't want to be perrenially afraid of my car's handling and traction limits...)[/ The V's are very good handling cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard, yes they make good ones, but when you have a 620hp car, and you try and launch with the TCS on, all thats gonna happen is it will keep your rpms below 3k and you wont be going anywhere fast, you need to turn off the TCS when racing. The vette with street tires and 620hp will be a high 11 second car because or traction issues, with drag radials a low 10s with no problems. Everyone who has a 620 hp rear wheel drive car please stand up Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Well i have a 517rwhp supra, which is about 580hp with 93 octane. So if i use 118 octane gas i would be far more than 550rwhp which is 620 at the crank. I also ran a 11.19 in the quarter, i know i could have hit 10s but no roll cage means no racing if you run a 11.99 or faster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korpsepatrol Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 in the wise words of my pet owl... O RLY? 2008 6mt Legacy Gt Spec B DGM - Not so Stock/Work in progress 2006 5mt Legacy Gt OBP - Sold 2005 5eat Legacy Gt OBP - RIP R.I.P Coxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 lol, its a 1987 supra targa top with the 7mgte inline 6 3.0liter with a pt-67 turbo kit. The turbo is capable of 850rwhp on that motor but i didnt have the money for internals that could handle that. Hopefully someday i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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05GT Guru Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 What is that supposed to mean that the car is a dyno queen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitestar Pilot Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard, yes they make good ones, but when you have a 620hp car, and you try and launch with the TCS on, all thats gonna happen is it will keep your rpms below 3k and you wont be going anywhere fast, you need to turn off the TCS when racing. The vette with street tires and 620hp will be a high 11 second car because or traction issues, with drag radials a low 10s with no problems. I'm just going by what I've experienced. A 300 horsepower Trans Am isn't the same thing, I know, but I do know that on days when the track (I'm talking 1/4 mile racing) was a little slick, and no one could get a good launch, using that traction control button on my car gave me consistent 13.70s all day long. The car's best time on a good day was 13.5. Very doubtful that this Cadillac is going to have that much horsepower anyway. Like someone else mentioned, it will probably be more in the 500 range, and I'm sure the car will only be available as an automatic. -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 I'd be willing to bet good Kaaaish the figure is in the 550-575 range.....6MT or 6AT If they were just wanting to hit 500 they would simply drop in the LS7 Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 What is that supposed to mean that the car is a dyno queen? I think that is what he was getting at. So how does it do on a road course? Can you keep the turbo spooled up enough to make a decent corner exit under power, or is it only fast in a strait line like a muscle car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 I have replaced everything on the car, suspension, tranny, engine, turbo, rear end. It handles pretty well, for a 3800lbs car. I can def feel a difference when the Targa top is off. The body tends to flex alot more. My supra is not a dyno queen ill have to find my dyno chart but i made great power from 3400rpms to the 6800rpm redline and i get valve float at 7100. Im only running 19-21psi to make those numbers. I have seen some 900rwhp supra not get out of the mid 11s because they only make 900rwhp for like 800rpms now those are dyno queens. And i have seen a 659rwhp supra run high 9s. Its really how you setup the car up. I have never taken it to a road course. I do most of my racing on the street. There are a couple of place around here that are packed with street races every warm weekend and the civics still show up on cold weekends lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldawg GT Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Officially released! http://www.leftlanenews.com/2009-cadillac-cts-v-revealed.html Can't wait to read the reviews. It's heavy @ 4200 lbs, but with 550hp/550 ft/lbs of torque it still should be able to scoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanboy Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Going to be a beast... So awesome to have fast sedans in the US market. No only if there were more wagons. G8 wagon certainly will have my attention when it arrives. -B http://www.standardshift.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 The CTS and STS-c have been aroudn for a couple years now, there awesome plastforms to begin when you want a nice ass fast car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Officially released! http://www.leftlanenews.com/2009-cadillac-cts-v-revealed.html Can't wait to read the reviews. It's heavy @ 4200 lbs, but with 550hp/550 ft/lbs of torque it still should be able to scoot. Id just like to point at that the GS450h, with a 300 lbs battery pack weights 70 lbs less than this Cadillac. What did they do? Line it with lead? Manually-equipped CTS-Vs will tip the scales at 4,200 pounds, with the automatic adding another 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 wow so they made them alot heavier, the 06 CTS-V is only 3700lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 wow so they made them alot heavier, the 06 CTS-V is only 3700lbs And this is exactly what Mercedes and Bentley are trying to undo. They kept making their cars heavier, which meant they needed more powerful engines, which then lowered fuel economy & BOOM! The green movement hits and now they are trying to make their cars lighter again. Oh GM, will you never learn. And Im curious as to how quick this car can hit 60 MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Well that really depends, the old CTS-Vs the 06s can do it in just under 5 second, with a good driver with drag radials they can do it in under 4. The new one i have no idea its heavey but with more power. Gm doesnt care about the weight ofthat car, because they still have the corvette and that sitll weighs 3200-3300lbs lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 And this is exactly what Mercedes and Bentley are trying to undo. They kept making their cars heavier, which meant they needed more powerful engines, which then lowered fuel economy & BOOM! The green movement hits and now they are trying to make their cars lighter again. Oh GM, will you never learn. And Im curious as to how quick this car can hit 60 MPH. I'll venture a guess of a traction limited 4.4-4.6 second 0-60 run on street tires, and a low 13 to high 12 second 1/4 mile, with a trap speed well into the 115-118mph range. So to answer your question it will be dirty ass fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 The biggest downfall to a car with that much power is the street tires. I have seen bone stock ls7 vettes 505hp with just drag radials hit 10s. If it really does come with 600hp with drap radials it could be a low 11 maybe high 10 with 100 more and 120 more trq than the ls7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisted Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Ok when was the last time an American Engine won the International Engine Award?? Or any engine award for that matter. All American seems to have is the GM LS-series of engines. THAT'S IT. I'm sorry to burst your bubble. I think u just pwnt the other guy LOL u mean 2 valves per cylinder arent enough?? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobE Posted June 10, 2008 Author Share Posted June 10, 2008 dare i say it... the new King of Cars? Official Specs: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V Will Make 556 Horsepower MILFORD, Michigan — The wait is over as GM today released official specifications for its 2009 Cadillac CTS-V performance sedan. Its 6.2-liter supercharged V8 will produce 556 horsepower and 551 pound-feet of torque. The 2009 CTS-V was unveiled in January at the 2009 Detroit Auto Show, and in May teased fans with its record-setting run on the famed Nürburgring test circuit, but until today, official specs including horsepower and torque ratings, had not been announced. According to Cadillac, the CTS-V will charge from zero to 60 mph in just 3.9 seconds, crossing the quarter-mile mark in 12 seconds flat at 118 mph. Equipped with the six-speed automatic transmission, the CTS-V is electronically limited to 175 mph, while the six-speed manual will allow drivers to reach 191 mph. If these numbers prove true, the CTS-V should handily beat the BMW M5, a car tagged by product chief Bob Lutz as the Cadillac's main target. Stopping power is provided by Brembo brakes: 14.6 inches with six-piston calipers in the front and 14.3 inches with four piston calipers in the rear. What this means to you: The baddest sedan in the land may finally wear an American badge. http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2008/0609/09.cadillac.cts.v.f34.500.jpghttp://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=126900#2 http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Lol you could say that but the new vette is almost 1000lbs lighter with 625hp and 625trq. As for you guys who think american companys ccant make good performance engines, the new GT500 long block can handle over 1000hp. As could the 03/04 cobra 4.6liter. The new SRT-8 and SRT-10 has seen over 1000hp with stock long block, the new lsa,lst,ls9 can also handle over 1000hp. As for 4 valves per cylinder gm has been proving that it only takes 2 to win races for over 50 years. I dont need an award to tell me what is or isnt a great engine i just do the research myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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