Earthworm Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 That's cheating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 That's cheating Welcome to life lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradlgt21 Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 That's cheating No thats hustling. I have known guys throw races they actually had money in on and taking the loss to get a better race in the future. Its not always about who your racing but who is watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviemadness Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 dr_sharp avatar wtf?? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 dr_sharp avatar wtf?? lol Have fun with your car and make a fool out of the boxster but no matter how many mods, these cars were never made to drag race Come to think of it, I can't think of any cars w/ 4doors that were made to drag race . Quickest 4-door I can think of is the M5? Now that car is a beast. Heavy, but fast. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradlgt21 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 ^^ yeah AWD cars were never meant to drag race. You know that pesky 1.7 or better 60' is never going to get you to win a race. I had a grand prix GTP as my previous car. Talk about a boat... but at the track I was beating some mustang cobras and keeping up with LS1's. Any car with the right mods can be fast. You just gotta like the car your building up first. Look at RAO he swaps LS1's into everything, doesn't matter if the car wasn't fast before. It is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 ^^ yeah AWD cars were never meant to drag race. You know that pesky 1.7 or better 60' is never going to get you to win a race. I was commenting on the 4-door family sedanishness of the LGT, not its AWD. 60' time is a poor measure of a cars actual performance, but rather its launching ability. If you think you own a race car, I whole-heartedly support you when you decide to race a real straight line car, like a GTO, C6, C5, STi, Evo, 350z etc. You may lose the race... but hey, at least you got to 60' first. That's what's really important. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradlgt21 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 ^^ I will race those cars. lets see I spent 26k on my car and they spent how much? A GTO is what 32k or something like that. If I put 6k in my car I will mop the floor with the GTO. And anyone who drag races at the track or anywhere to the full 1/4 mile knows the most important part of a race is the 60'. Its hard to make up 2-3 car lenths in only a quarter mile because the AWD car killed you out of the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 ^^ I will race those cars. lets see I spent 26k on my car and they spent how much? A GTO is what 32k or something like that. If I put 6k in my car I will mop the floor with the GTO. And anyone who drag races at the track or anywhere to the full 1/4 mile knows the most important part of a race is the 60'. Its hard to make up 2-3 car lenths in only a quarter mile because the AWD car killed you out of the hole. No, it's not hard for 400-500hp cars to catch up 2-3 carlengths in the quarter mile. The LGT cannot go far with modding. Do you realize how fast the cars I mentioned can be made? Easily 11s, 10s with efforts and 9s with a lot of work. When you find a LGT that can run those numbers, get back to me If you want a moddable quarter mile car, get the STi. Hate to break it to you, but you're family sedan is not a drag racer, sorry. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviemadness Posted May 4, 2007 Author Share Posted May 4, 2007 it will never be done, cuz there's no point in making a LGT into a drag car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradlgt21 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 If you want a moddable quarter mile car, get the STi. Hate to break it to you, but you're family sedan is not a drag racer, sorry. Our car has the same engine as a STI. So how in the hell does that make it more modable then us? We use the same parts, we just have the engine bolted into a heavier body. A manual trans LGT has a curb weight of 3,415 lbs. The STI has curb weight of 3,351 lbs. We weigh 64 lbs. more. The only difference between the cars is a bigger turbo bigger intercooler and some tuning and fuel. Which all goes out the door once someone throws major mods in there. Just for the record I don't want to make my LGT super fast. I stopped at stage 2. I am just proving that if you want to make the LGT really fast, go for it. Its the same thing as the Subaru flag ship race car STI with less flash and more class when you start throwing big turbos and fuel systems into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang killer Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 Our car has the same engine as a STI. So how in the hell does that make it more modable then us? We use the same parts, we just have the engine bolted into a heavier body. A manual trans LGT has a curb weight of 3,415 lbs. The STI has curb weight of 3,351 lbs. We weigh 64 lbs. more. The only difference between the cars is a bigger turbo bigger intercooler and some tuning and fuel. Which all goes out the door once someone throws major mods in there. Just for the record I don't want to make my LGT super fast. I stopped at stage 2. I am just proving that if you want to make the LGT really fast, go for it. Its the same thing as the Subaru flag ship race car STI with less flash and more class when you start throwing big turbos and fuel systems into it. well said. but i thought the sti curb weight was 3250 and we were 3350. either way its almost the same so whos counting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 Our car has the same engine as a STI. So how in the hell does that make it more modable then us? We use the same parts, we just have the engine bolted into a heavier body. A manual trans LGT has a curb weight of 3,415 lbs. The STI has curb weight of 3,351 lbs. We weigh 64 lbs. more. The only difference between the cars is a bigger turbo bigger intercooler and some tuning and fuel. Which all goes out the door once someone throws major mods in there. Just for the record I don't want to make my LGT super fast. I stopped at stage 2. I am just proving that if you want to make the LGT really fast, go for it. Its the same thing as the Subaru flag ship race car STI with less flash and more class when you start throwing big turbos and fuel systems into it. When you find a LGT that can run those numbers, get back to me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradlgt21 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 I thought it was lighter then that too. I found it on the subaru website though. maybe the new STI's gained a little weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradlgt21 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 When you find a LGT that can run those numbers, get back to me The point I was proving was that the LGT is just as capable of being super fast as any other car. I have seen civics run 9's. It doesn't matter. PDX is throwing a turbo H6 in there legacy. I am sure thats gonna be pretty fast. Then your best line you had all day. If you want a drag car get a STI. I then proved to you that a Legacy is just as fast as a STI when you start swapping turbo's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang killer Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 No, it's not hard for 400-500hp cars to catch up 2-3 carlengths in the quarter mile. The LGT cannot go far with modding. Do you realize how fast the cars I mentioned can be made? Easily 11s, 10s with efforts and 9s with a lot of work. When you find a LGT that can run those numbers, get back to me If you want a moddable quarter mile car, get the STi. Hate to break it to you, but you're family sedan is not a drag racer, sorry. 1st wave of mods complete carbon 35 tint 2 JL 10W 0's mtx 600W thunder amp Avic navigation/DVD HU cleared headlights Tein flex coilovers PSRS 18 chrome Bling Blings (swapped out the chrome for TrakLites) HID conversion debadged completely custom grille (farmerjon especiale) Greddy SP2 cat back exhaust 2nd wave complete - 362whp 337wtq pump FMIC PDX custom rotated mount GT35R Perrin uppipe Perrin downpipe modified injectors Walbro Fuel Pump Cobb Accessport Tial Blow off Valve K&N intake JaRrAd Dyno tune 3rd wave complete AquaMist Methanol injection Custom A-Pillar Megan racing 3 gauge pod (farmerjon bondo creation) Spec stage 2+ clutch Tranny Mount Engine Mounts Front Chin Spoiler bumper center delete in front of FMIC (another farmerjon bondo creation) 4th wave complete TurboXS UTEC Launch Control Flat Foot Shifting Perrin Front and Rear swaybars 5th wave complete Cosworth CNC Ported Big Valve Cylinder heads shot peened rods Mahle 99mm inverted dome powerpack forged pistons engine balance and blue print 6th wave complete - 425whp 363wtq pump DTEC boost controller KartBoys short shifter JaRrAd Dyno tune 7th wave complete - 455whp 393wtq pump Perrin headers - heat wrapped Passport SR7 with shifters Motegi Traklites Passport G-Timer gt2 same tune 8th Wave next Water injection Map custom stainless methanol tank hoping to break 500whp 9th Wave PPG gearset stage 4 clutch Rods Brembo brakes sleeve block edfc cams Attached Thumbnailshttp://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19145&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1148921783 http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19147&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1148921783 http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19148&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1148921783 http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19149&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1148921783 http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28546&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1165341611 http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28547&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1165341611 http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28548&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1165341611 http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28549&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1165341611 http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28550&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1165341611 http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28551&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1165341611 http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28552&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1165341611 http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28553&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1165341611 http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28554&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1165341611 http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28555&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1165341611 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang killer Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 the car listed above is easily an 11 second car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang killer Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 455 whp??? isnt that like 550 bhp in our cars??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradlgt21 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 I was thinking of bringing him up but it was taking forever to dig up stuff. Instead I found like 5 videos for STI's going 10's and 11's. Which I proved earlier is the same engine as our cars but we weight less then 100 lbs more. If need be I can post links to the videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang killer Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 yea pretty much everything dr._dick or whatever said about legacy drag racing is bull shit. legacies have alot of potential as proven by farmerjohn's car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang killer Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 actually, farmerjohn's car is probably closer to 10.0 rather than 11.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 And an STi with same amount of money put into it remains much faster. I'll believe 11 when I see it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 dr._dick Man you've got me figured out! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradlgt21 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 And an STi with same amount of money put into it remains much faster. I'll believe 11 when I see it How does a STI become way faster??? lets just say you throw a huge turbo on a STI and some fuel upgrades and it costs 5k Now you take a LGT throw the same exact turbo on it and the same fuel upgrades on it. How is it going to cost different. It won't its the same damn parts. The final result is 2 cars each with 2.5L identicle motors with the same big turbo on it. one car weighs 60 lbs more. So the STI is now a tenth of a second faster then the LGT tops. The only way you can say a STI is better is if you go stock to stock or you avoid turbo swaps. Because any turbo you slap on a STI you can slap on a LGT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang killer Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 And an STi with same amount of money put into it remains much faster. I'll believe 11 when I see it that may be true but your argument was just that legacy werent capable of running low drag strip times. and how is that car not sub 11 sec? i was researching some legacy drag times and found that some legacy were running high 12s on just stage 2. stage 2=240 whp- 270whp farmerjohn's= 455 whp!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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