edkwon Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 oh well, just have to sit back an wait, gives me a reason not to spend more money on power mods right now anyway. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 All it would really take to make the SI-Drive knob to work as a map switcher is to rewire it, so long as the functionality were built into the AP reflash. However, it would be even cooler for me to be able to watch some realtime gauging from the nav screen (on equipped models). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Bump for update.... I want this thing like YESTERDAY. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Power Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Subscribed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudy Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Waiting for this as well. Putting summer tires on the car in a month, first oil change is coming up - everything is broken in and ready for more HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeddr7 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I am dieing for it as well. Who needs tickets to the gun show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1anatic Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Well...what if Cobb forgoes the 07 GTs and goes on to work on the 08s ? How cool would that be :-) The car that never went faster - the 07 GTs... In all honesty...you are not gonna switch maps with that SI-Drive button. At most, the usage will stay the same...control the throttle map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02BlkRex Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Well...what if Cobb forgoes the 07 GTs and goes on to work on the 08s ? How cool would that be :-) The car that never went faster - the 07 GTs... In all honesty...you are not gonna switch maps with that SI-Drive button. At most, the usage will stay the same...control the throttle map. Hasn't Cobb said from the beginning that they were trying to incorporate the SI-Drive? Do you work for Cobb? BTW, if we don't get the AP like you say, we can still flash via other options out there and you will still NEVER get the fold down rear seats! HAHA!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edkwon Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Well...what if Cobb forgoes the 07 GTs and goes on to work on the 08s ? How cool would that be :-) The car that never went faster - the 07 GTs... In all honesty...you are not gonna switch maps with that SI-Drive button. At most, the usage will stay the same...control the throttle map. why are you trying to pick a fight with the 07 owners, grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005garnetGT Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 actually, you can't flash with other methods. there is NO reflash by anyone for the 07s yet. Hasn't Cobb said from the beginning that they were trying to incorporate the SI-Drive? Do you work for Cobb? SI-Drive is a LOT simpler then you think it is. it switches between three throttle maps, and activates sportshift on the 5EATs. BTW, if we don't get the AP like you say, we can still flash via other options out there and you will still NEVER get the fold down rear seats! HAHA!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02BlkRex Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 actually, you can't flash with other methods. there is NO reflash by anyone for the 07s yet. SI-Drive is a LOT simpler then you think it is. it switches between three throttle maps, and activates sportshift on the 5EATs. What about the OpenECU I've been hearing a little about? It may not be as good as the AP from the start but it is free (after you have the cable) and you can edit your own maps. And other flashes are coming. Sorry the '07s aren't 3 years old now and the aftermarket community hasn't had time to develop stuff for the new technology yet. I understand that SI-Drive is simple and it only changes throttle response and limits boost in I mode. On the 5MT, I personally think it sucks and doesn't do a whole lot. I believe Cobb said that SI-Drive may be disabled but the infamous knob could be used to switch maps without dicking with the AP. That is cool and I would be happy as a pig in sh*t if that is all that happens. I don't understand why some of you guys are so down on the '07s. It is more car in my opinion. No cat in the uppipe to replace, fold down rear seats, mp3 player stock, and oh yeah, the SI-Drive that is going on every turboed Subaru from here on out. I made that last part up but it may be true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKLGT Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 the 07 imo, is a great vehicle. however, i wouldn't say the SI drive is that great. sport sharp is basicly what our sport mode is for 05. i do, however, feel that rear fold down seats, catless uppipe, and larger wastegate in the turbo are better. i would love to have the 07 spec B as I want a 6MT badly. however, for my daily driving, i admit it's nice to not deal w/ the shifting and clutch in the city (mostly what i do). but you never know... i'm interested to see what happens for 08 spec b. we'd better be getting one! Wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle yeah!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TT- Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 dammit. i want an AP. and also i need my old ap un-married so i can sell it (cant get to the car anymore to do this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 The debate shouldn't be about enabling the SI-Drive selector as a map switcher -- its about getting the damn AP up and running for these cars so that I can tune this bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 i need my old ap un-married so i can sell it (cant get to the car anymore to do this) I thought I saw in another thread that Cobb could help you out with this, as long as you could prove your original car is toast. Not sure if there'd be a fee associated with that service, but you might want to call them. Seek first to understand, then to be understood. In other words: SEARCH before you post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005garnetGT Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 What about the OpenECU I've been hearing a little about? It may not be as good as the AP from the start but it is free (after you have the cable) and you can edit your own maps. And other flashes are coming. Sorry the '07s aren't 3 years old now and the aftermarket community hasn't had time to develop stuff for the new technology yet. I understand that SI-Drive is simple and it only changes throttle response and limits boost in I mode. On the 5MT, I personally think it sucks and doesn't do a whole lot. I believe Cobb said that SI-Drive may be disabled but the infamous knob could be used to switch maps without dicking with the AP. That is cool and I would be happy as a pig in sh*t if that is all that happens. I don't understand why some of you guys are so down on the '07s. It is more car in my opinion. No cat in the uppipe to replace, fold down rear seats, mp3 player stock, and oh yeah, the SI-Drive that is going on every turboed Subaru from here on out. I made that last part up but it may be true... what about it? colby hasn't done anything with ecuflash since the summer, and the next flash kernel he is/was working on was for H8/500 support, not CAN bus flashing. (and I was one of the first, if not the first person to flash a USDM LGT with ecuflash. You kids today with your checksum fix checkboxes... back in my day, you had to fix the checksum by hand! with a hex editor! uphill both ways! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1anatic Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I understand that SI-Drive is simple and it only changes throttle response and limits boost in I mode. On the 5MT, I personally think it sucks and doesn't do a whole lot. I believe Cobb said that SI-Drive may be disabled but the infamous knob could be used to switch maps without dicking with the AP. That is cool and I would be happy as a pig in sh*t if that is all that happens. It is a GREAT car and I want an 07 Spec B like nothing else. But the reason some of us with 05s talk in your thread is because you guys think so highly of the SI drive button. At least this is my reason. It is a nice little gimmick. Which will change the throttle position angle. But that is it. It cannot switch maps. What you guys want it to do is dependent on the ECU having memory for 3 real time maps. Which so far, my understanding is that is has room for 3 TPS maps. Which is a different business. Switching maps thru that little button would mean either the ECU is way smarter and has more memory or you keep the AP plugged in the OBD-2 port...which denies any coolness of the SI-Drive button - even if you DO change maps flipping it...but as long as the AP is connected to the car...it is no different than what we (05,06) do already. The other thing to keep in mind is that Cobb started looking at this v2 for the AP before these new SI-Drive buttons came out. From what I understand, Cobb is putting out 2 APv2 models ... the ones for the 2L engines and the ones for the 2.5L engine. Perhaps he wanted to avoid making year specific and car specific APs (just like it was the case with v1 for Baja, Forester, Impreza, Legacy, STi for all these years 2002-2006). Are the other Subarus getting the SI-Drive button ? Is the new Impreza getting it ? Or the Forester ? Probably it makes less sense to work into the APv2 a feature found on just one of the models (Legacy)...and between this and making an APv2 good for ALL 2.5L engines but lose specific functionalities that could be implemented...I am sure Cobb is gonna choose the later. By the way...do you know how long it took between v.1.15 and v.1.16 maps for the 05 GTs to be developed ? Almost a year. No...from what I hear, the OPEN ECU deal is not gonna work on the 07 GTs. Not for now. And the way it limits the boost ...is not thru an actual real time map but thru the TPS maps: basically stepping on the throttle all the way to the floor will only open your throttle 40% 50% whatever that is...which translates into...lower boost. It does not control boost the way a real time map would. At least that is MY understanding which may be flawed. Good luck and I really hope Cobb will issue the AP sooner. We all want to see what mad power the Spec Bs can have... Even I am thinking sometimes that I should trade it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth1784 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 cool stuff, wonder if the auto transmission and how it acts is giving them fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005garnetGT Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 since the trans is the same as the 05/06s, I'd say it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth1784 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 shweet! that's what im liking to hear lol! id be sad if it was to where it would slow everything else up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TT- Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 i dont give a flying f*** about si-drive or the knob switching maps i just needs me some more POWA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTsullyman Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 +1 Amen dude, amen. 2007 DGM LGT 2003 Suzuki SV650S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edkwon Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I agree with turntable People really need to stop getting hung up on pros/cons of the SI drive. It's there, its a gimmick, it does stuff, but it doesnt make an earth shattering difference in the driving experience of the car. It has some utility but not having it does not make the car worse. I use it but if i didn't have it, i dont think i'd be depressed and cry myself to sleep every night for lack of SI Drive. TO THOSE PPL HUNG UP ON DEBATING THE PROS/CONS of SI drive WHEN IT COMES TO 07 ACCESSPORT TUNING, PLEASE STOP!!! it's a waste of space on this thread and mostly irrelevant to the topic at hand. we all just want more power. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touge Tuning Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 05/06 guys are just mad cause they dont have fold down rear seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirsimon Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I agree with turntable People really need to stop getting hung up on pros/cons of the SI drive. It's there, its a gimmick, it does stuff, but it doesnt make an earth shattering difference in the driving experience of the car. It has some utility but not having it does not make the car worse. I use it but if i didn't have it, i dont think i'd be depressed and cry myself to sleep every night for lack of SI Drive. TO THOSE PPL HUNG UP ON DEBATING THE PROS/CONS of SI drive WHEN IT COMES TO 07 ACCESSPORT TUNING, PLEASE STOP!!! it's a waste of space on this thread and mostly irrelevant to the topic at hand. we all just want more power. Ed ^ Thanks, Ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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