SubieDriver Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 I would agree with that, but I would say that our exhausts are more like a 3" tube going down to a 1" tube. The stock mufflers tend to offer a fair amount of resistance. With high backpressure, a flange leak will help more than a low backpressure system, so the Hogzaust will help more with the stock exhaust than an aftermarket CBE (even though the effect is still minimal in both cases). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaccaroja Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 Actually, a straight 3" tube will flow more than a 3" tube that has a huge hole in it before a neck down to 2". This is because the flow has to slow down to turn the corner and go out the hole. So, while there might be an infinitesimally small gain by adding holes on the side of the exhaust, the well designed straight through exhaust will reduce the backpressure more... mine is 3 all the way back to 4 inch tips. 13.6 @ 102 untuned FTW SmartWax - Spec Clutch - Team Scp 1 http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaccaroja Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 I would agree with that, but I would say that our exhausts are more like a 3" tube going down to a 1" tube. The stock mufflers tend to offer a fair amount of resistance. With high backpressure, a flange leak will help more than a low backpressure system, so the Hogzaust will help more with the stock exhaust than an aftermarket CBE (even though the effect is still minimal in both cases). thats exactly why i put a cut out at my downpipe. 13.6 @ 102 untuned FTW SmartWax - Spec Clutch - Team Scp 1 http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTATV Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 (edited) pretty sure i understand. I have a catless turbo back exhaust system, with electric qtp exhaust cut outs. pretty sure you dont cause my buddy custom welds 2 stroke expansion chambers which are a a lot more complicated.... its all backpressure. more better for low end less better for top end, somewhere in the middle usually cherry... once again i disclamimer i dont think it adds any peformance but it DOESNT DECREASE PERFORMANCE Edited July 2, 2008 by CTATV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.T.Subie Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 This thread got way to technical... It's just a little hidden Rice. Denial is your best friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmeat Posted July 3, 2008 Author Share Posted July 3, 2008 Vaccaroja: I understand you have more money then brains, but please realize that there are no performance gains from this mod. None. Neither does it decrease your power or gas milage. I'm not as nice as the other guy that wasted his time on a long response (that you ignored). You are a dolt. I'm pleasantly surprised... It was most certainly worth the couple bucks and 10 mins of my time. CLICK HERE FOR THE HOGZAUST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonmaster87 Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 This pimplefaced-dweeb left a nasty comment with swearing on a youtube video of mine too. hahaha. Go enjoy the car mommy and daddy bought for you. Pimplefaced dweeb huh! Well I'm just saying i couldn't do a mod like, that to me in my mind its a ricer mod, i bought a full catback and it sounds amazing you can't beat the real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Well, sure, a professionally-designed CBE *should* sound better than the Hogzaust for all that money, but look at the cost/benefit ratio:Â Good CBE with really sweet sound = $1000.00 Hogzaust with 50% sweet sound = $1.00Â That means you're paying $999 more for 50% better sound. (okay, I could be off on the 50% - sound is entirely subjective) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmeat Posted July 3, 2008 Author Share Posted July 3, 2008 Pimplefaced dweeb huh! Well I'm just saying i couldn't do a mod like, that to me in my mind its a ricer mod, i bought a full catback and it sounds amazing you can't beat the real thing. I value your opinion, now you are dismissed. I'm pleasantly surprised... It was most certainly worth the couple bucks and 10 mins of my time. CLICK HERE FOR THE HOGZAUST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmeat Posted July 3, 2008 Author Share Posted July 3, 2008 EXHAUST LEAK = LOSS OF POWER   it may sound nice, but your loosing power and gas mpg's. You too. I'm pleasantly surprised... It was most certainly worth the couple bucks and 10 mins of my time. CLICK HERE FOR THE HOGZAUST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 But wait, he said we're "loosing" power & mpg. That's the opposite of "losing" power & mpg. I would agree that we're "loosing", or letting loose, or freeing up, a couple of horsepower and maybe a couple tenths of a mile per gallon. In that, I agree with him. Â I'm still a little confused about the "your" instead of "you're" though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmeat Posted July 4, 2008 Author Share Posted July 4, 2008 Dude...you got 3 subarus? awesomeness. I'm very jealous. I tried to get our Plant manager at my workplace to get one, but he bought a stupid RAV-4 instead. Dumbass... I'm pleasantly surprised... It was most certainly worth the couple bucks and 10 mins of my time. CLICK HERE FOR THE HOGZAUST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Yep, got three. I got the '98 LGT in 2001, drove that til I bought my '05 in '06 and passed the '98 down to my son who needed a car for college. Two years later I got the Tribeca, and passed the '05 LGT to my son and the '98 to my daughter, who just graduated high school. Keeping them in the family. I might still have my old Justy too, if I hadn't wrecked it. I'm kinda regretting passing the '05 LGT to my son. I miss driving it. The Tribeca just doesn't have quite the same sporty character... though it's a great vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttlejockey Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Pretty funny. I was bored yesterday so I had to try this. Pulled the bolts out, removed the gaskets so I had them if I didn't like it. My wife comes out and sees bolts and wrenches laying on the floor and asks "Now what are you doing?" I told her don't worry about, it you'll see. I put 2 washers in and dropped one down the pipe and had to start it to get it blow out. Finished up and started it up. Sounded okay, but I was still unsure about it. Took it for a ride and thought it was a bit loud for me but figured I would go to one washer. Got back and the wife was in the house. I told her to go take a ride in it. She goes out to the garage fires it up and yell over to me, "You've got to be kidding me!" And proceeds to drive out of the driveway. She comes back and pulls up and I'm expecting to pull it back into the garage to take them out. She said she liked it. I told her I'm not crazy about it, but I'll leave it for a day or so to see if she changes her mind. Anyone using one washer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadvw Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 (edited) Pretty funny. I was bored yesterday so I had to try this. Pulled the bolts out, removed the gaskets so I had them if I didn't like it. ... She comes back and pulls up and I'm expecting to pull it back into the garage to take them out. She said she liked it. I told her I'm not crazy about it, but I'll leave it for a day or so to see if she changes her mind. Anyone using one washer? I'm using 1 washer per bolt on passenger's side (i.e. 2 washers total). My wife also unexpectedly likes it. HV Edited July 5, 2008 by hadvw forgot a word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttlejockey Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I'm using 1 washer per bolt on passenger's side (i.e. 2 washers total). My wife also unexpectedly likes it. HV Only on the passenger side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadvw Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Only on the passenger side? Yup. Just enough loudness for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttlejockey Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Drove around for a while today and decided I like it quiet. Back to stock for me. Seemed like it pulled harder stock also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icrackedcorn Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 ive only got one flange with 1 on 1 bolt and 2 on the other and its as loud as id want it obedience to church and state is subjugation to the unjust authority of men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmeat Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 Wifey gonna be mad. I will say one thing. Kudos to your wife and being able to drive a stick. My wife is too 'tarded too... I'm pleasantly surprised... It was most certainly worth the couple bucks and 10 mins of my time. CLICK HERE FOR THE HOGZAUST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttlejockey Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Wifey gonna be mad. I will say one thing. Kudos to your wife and being able to drive a stick. My wife is too 'tarded too... We actually bought an 08 3.0R when we traded in our 05 GT MT. We both thought we could deal with an AT but hated it the longer we had it. Then we traded that in on the SpecB. It was an expensive mistake, but at least we have what we really like now. She actually liked the exhaust mod and didn't really want me to change it back. I don't know, I just like it quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imboden Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Couple noob questions... Do you put the gasket on with the washers or leave them off? Also, I think I remember reading that this 'mod' has been harsh on the exhaust after a week or so. Can I have this on my car for an extended period of time without problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttlejockey Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Remove the gaskets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTATV Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 i cant even tell the difference unless I have the radio off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmeat Posted July 7, 2008 Author Share Posted July 7, 2008 Are you Stage 2 Hogzaust? If not, do that. YOu'll tell the diff. Either than, or your radio is on 30... I'm pleasantly surprised... It was most certainly worth the couple bucks and 10 mins of my time. CLICK HERE FOR THE HOGZAUST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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