MDTURBO Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 EBC's are from my experience not a very good pad. I had greenstuffs on my trans-am and they dusted average but were very noisy, and wore the rotors badly. 2012 Forester XT. Stage 2+ Retired from Racing. I used to build FMIC and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 EBC isn't the answer that's for sure. Cheaper - yeah I bet they are and for good reason. I'll have to be a little sarcastic here and say "I thought you drove a $30k Subaru - not a '94 Civic w/ a shopping cart handle and a fart can." Put it this way. One of these companies is on cars at ROAD RACE courses I go to all the time. The other is on cars I see at the parking lot of the HIN show. You decide Actually they are not the cheapest by a long way, and I had them on my MX-5 with no problems at all. Therefore there is no need for your poor attempt at sarcasm 1. because it doesn't suit you, and 2. because you're not very good at it. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNS Brakes Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Ok then without being sarcastic, Hawk is a superior product to EBC and worth the price premium IMO. This advantage becomes more and more apparant the harder you use your brakes. One look at the quality of machining and casting of one of their rotors is all I needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Thanks, the Hawks are actually cheaper than the Green's, so I would be saving money getting Hawk's instead. I was only looking at the pad's not replacing the rotors. It must be something about the material of the rotors then, because I have used the Greens before and had nothing but praise for them, as have many others. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNS Brakes Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Am I really not good at being sarcastic?? I feel like I'm looking around the room for 'that guy' and I don't see him. We all know what that means. :embarrassed: I'll add that one of the reasons I like Hawk is because it's made in the USA and they support racing a lot. That means something to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgt Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 The Carbotech bobcats are a good street pad, low dust, low noise, but I personally like Hawk HPS for street applications. As stated previously, the fronts are coming from Hawk, but are not out yet. The HPS are Ferro-Carbon rather than Ceramic like the Bobcats or Hawk Ceramics, so they are less noisy and wear less. I personally haven't upgraded the POS brakes on my lgt, but the stockers are sqweeling at 23k so it is time for me to get new ones soon, most likely I'll be going with Carbotech bobcats myself. IMO, I really dont think people who daily drive will enjoy the noise and dust of any pad other than those designed for street applications. The race pads work better, but noise and wear are the cons to those pads. -Rob The bobcats I have on my car dust like crazy and squeal a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNS Brakes Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I don't hear that comment very often - have you tried rebedding them or some CRC disc quiet on the backing plate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgt Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 yes I have. They remind me of Hawk HP+ pads. they squeal unless you are putting significant pressure on them. the GF thinks my brakes are broken lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNS Brakes Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I'd ask Carbotech directly. They pretty strongly market otherwise - and charge a premium for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDTURBO Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I can get green stuffs for you guys at a good price if you want them. I just don't necessarily offer them up as an option because of my own opinion. -Rob 2012 Forester XT. Stage 2+ Retired from Racing. I used to build FMIC and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobo69 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 EBC's have a high tendency to deposit friction material on the rotors giving them a warped feel (check around the internet for some reviews) thats why i steered away from them for my tiburon i went with the HPS pads and was very pleased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwood Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 I had noisy deposit prone ebcs on my A4. mintex were better. I have hps on my car now and they are good. no squeal, very little dust. common consensus over at nasioc tho, which may mean nothing, seems to be that the carbotechs are better.... getting out of the legacy game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted March 14, 2006 Author Share Posted March 14, 2006 spoke with Tom at Hawk Performance. They are due to be released by the end of May. They will also be releasing HP+ and ceramic pads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDork Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 i have the hps on my m coupe....awesome pad. insane bite....my front tires will lock up if i stomp on em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWortham Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I have the Hawk HPS pads on my Elantra. They feel essentially like stock at low-temps but bite like mad when they heat up. They squeal a little with light pedal pressure, and that might be fixable with the CRC Disc Quiet stuff. I wouldn't exactly call them a low-dusting brake pad though... at least there was less dusting with the OEM pads. Overall I'm liking them but I don't know much about how they compare to offerings from Endless, Carbotech, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REM87O Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I have been waiting for Hawk pads too. Contacted them last month and what they told me jives with what Jim1969 has heard. This is a quote from Jerry. "It looks like we will be shipping these pads in May 2006. I do not have a part number to give you yet as they are still being drawn up in Engineering and no number has been assigned at this time. Please check back in April and I will have a more definitive answer." I hope my stock pads can make it until then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Heard all good things about Endless, especially the SS-M. Very expensive, but no dust, long wear, and improvement over stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetic1 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 yes I have. They remind me of Hawk HP+ pads. they squeal unless you are putting significant pressure on them. the GF thinks my brakes are broken lol Steve, check the metal retainers... they have "fingers" on them and if they arent lined up right they will make tons of noise! Free Sonax Cleaner Deal http://www.brakeswap.com Carbotech, Hawk, PFC, DBA Rotors, Motul, Wilwood, Castrol... Great service. No bumping required ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team23jordan Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Rob, do you carry endless? Perrin BIG maf intake Perrin Turbo Inlet HKS SSQV BOV Megan Racing header with UP (ceramic coated) HKS DP (WRX) DMH E-cutout Custom 3" catback UTEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDTURBO Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Rob, do you carry endless? I do have an account with them, I can check on their pads for you if you like. 2012 Forester XT. Stage 2+ Retired from Racing. I used to build FMIC and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I do have an account with them, I can check on their pads for you if you like. please due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 any final answer on the P/N's for the HPS for the LGT?? I might be down for a rear set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoDork Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 +1^^^ Interested in Rear Pad P/N. (hey dan, how goes the lowering project??) ~Sucka-Duck~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDTURBO Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 rears are same as wrx and are available now. 2012 Forester XT. Stage 2+ Retired from Racing. I used to build FMIC and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 +1^^^ Interested in Rear Pad P/N. (hey dan, how goes the lowering project??) pm'ed ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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