Guest Derrick0580 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 A reliable source told me that it will be making over 300 hp. Really close to an sti although its a brand new engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstater Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 The WRX S4 which is a Japanese only factory 'tuned' 2.0 DIT and CVT/SI Drive makes about 300hp (US versions are sold at 268hp). So I will double down, the next STI will get this new 2.4 DIT tuned from the factory so stock it makes over 300hp (the current engine is 305hp). This solves the Subaru dilemma of keeping the WRX and STI distinctly separate. If they went with the same 2.0DIT from the WRX for the STI, they would lose their market for the STI except for track and offroad users (which is a small market). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derrick0580 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I agree with upstater seeing how they have problems with the top ends on the 2.5 sti engines. Only makes sense to try and remedy that with a new design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laufu Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 The WRX S4 which is a Japanese only factory 'tuned' 2.0 DIT and CVT/SI Drive makes about 300hp (US versions are sold at 268hp). So I will double down, the next STI will get this new 2.4 DIT tuned from the factory so stock it makes over 300hp (the current engine is 305hp). This solves the Subaru dilemma of keeping the WRX and STI distinctly separate. If they went with the same 2.0DIT from the WRX for the STI, they would lose their market for the STI except for track and offroad users (which is a small market). The WRX S4 uses the same drivetrain as the 2012 Legacy B4 2.0 DIT. So if it was meant for the WRX STI, it would have been in it by now. There are only two years (1?) left before the WRX and WRX STI moves to the new SGP platform. I am thinking the new 2.4 DIT will be the first in a new family of engines, and it will spawn a new 2.0 DIT for the WRX and WRX STI since Japan uses engine size to calculate taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv my 3.6 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 no thanks,,,,,i like my reg gas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammcinnis Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 A reliable source told me that it will be making over 300 hp. Just remember that the transmission, the transfer assembly, and the rest of the drivetrain will have to be engineered to handle the increased torque reliably. "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there." ~ The Cheshire Cat (Alice in Wonderland) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gathermewool Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 no thanks,,,,,i like my reg gas Kind of like saying you prefer a prop plane over a jet, because the jet requires jet fuel... '15 FB25 Magnatec 0W-20 + FU filter (70,517 miles) RSB, Fr. Strut Bar, Tint, STI BBS, LED er'where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 no thanks,,,,,i like my reg gas Who says its going to require premium gas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv my 3.6 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 as the op posted 2.4L Direct-Injection Turbocharged SUBARU BOXER® engine all turbocharged engines require premium gas..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gathermewool Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 as the op posted 2.4L Direct-Injection Turbocharged SUBARU BOXER® engine all turbocharged engines require premium gas..... Nope... Highly recommended? Sure. Required? Nope '15 FB25 Magnatec 0W-20 + FU filter (70,517 miles) RSB, Fr. Strut Bar, Tint, STI BBS, LED er'where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laufu Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 as the op posted 2.4L Direct-Injection Turbocharged SUBARU BOXER® engine all turbocharged engines require premium gas..... The award winning 1.6L Direct-Injection Turbocharged SUBARU BOXER® engine used in the Levorg runs on 87 octane. https://www.torquenews.com/1084/new-subaru-levorg-developed-out-perform-legacy-25i Granted it only makes 176 hp, so here's hoping Subaru can make at least 276 hp on regular with the new 2.4DIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 2.5i make more hp with premium gas as well. Turbocharger engines can be tuned to run properly on 87 octane, especially with direct injection. Other manufacturers are designing and tuning the engines for regular gas. Subaru's current 2.0DIT all recommend premium gas, though. At least for Ascent, I don't see Subaru requiring premium gas (or latest I think it would be a mistake to require it for it intended market.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derrick0580 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just remember that the transmission, the transfer assembly, and the rest of the drivetrain will have to be engineered to handle the increased torque reliably. Yes, definitely! They haven't let many of us see the actual production model, some but not all. Some of us have seen the bare stripped down bodies and let me just say these things will be big compared to the outback. They are gonna need plenty of torque and hp just to get this thing down the road! My wife has already said she wants one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstater Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 2.5i make more hp with premium gas as well. Turbocharger engines can be tuned to run properly on 87 octane, especially with direct injection. Other manufacturers are designing and tuning the engines for regular gas. Subaru's current 2.0DIT all recommend premium gas, though. At least for Ascent, I don't see Subaru requiring premium gas (or latest I think it would be a mistake to require it for it intended market.) My 2015 WRX 'could' run on regular gas, though premium was recommended. But on a hot summer day, it had to have top tier premium gas, or it would fall flat on its face (it retarded the timing really badly when I tried running non-ethanol 91 octane, which was the top grade sold at Stewarts). I imagine the WRX S4 version which is tuned would require premium or it would suffer the same fate at even lower temps. Subaru isn't Hyundai. Their 2.0 turbo (in the Sonata) runs on regular gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstik Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 2.5i make more hp with premium gas as well. Turbocharger engines can be tuned to run properly on 87 octane, especially with direct injection. Other manufacturers are designing and tuning the engines for regular gas. Subaru's current 2.0DIT all recommend premium gas, though. At least for Ascent, I don't see Subaru requiring premium gas (or latest I think it would be a mistake to require it for it intended market.) fingers crossed it has a flex fuel sensor and can dial up the power when you put in 93. i agree it would be dumb of them to require premium since a lot of people hate getting premium even when there car requires it. i have had the Octane talk with my dad probably a hundred times and he still doesn't get it so I'll assume most people just think there car wants "the good gas" and not "the gas that will prevent detonation" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Yes, definitely! They haven't let many of us see the actual production model, some but not all. Some of us have seen the bare stripped down bodies and let me just say these things will be big compared to the outback. They are gonna need plenty of torque and hp just to get this thing down the road! My wife has already said she wants one! Any pics ? Come on! We're friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derrick0580 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Any pics ? Come on! We're friends Uhmmmm, NO, i like my job! And the engineers watch you like hawks when you are in the room with the production model! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Oh man, come on! Joking... I understand. In any case, when is the official public release or whatever it is called? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 In the meantime: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fiatz79 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 as the op posted 2.4L Direct-Injection Turbocharged SUBARU BOXER® engine all turbocharged engines require premium gas..... The Volvo dual charged 6 ran on regular as well. I was sad that they didn't have it as an option in the S90. (The new 4 DOES require premium). Lighting Mods Low Beams: D4S - OSRAM XENARC 66440 CBI HID BULBS Highbeam/DRL: 9005 - OSRAM NIGHT BREAKER UNLIMITED 9005NBUHCB BULBS Fog: H11 - OSRAM NIGHT BREAKER UNLIMITED 64211NBU-01B BULBS Subaru 20mm RSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadvw Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Uhmmmm, NO, i like my job! And the engineers watch you like hawks when you are in the room with the production model! I think he meant of the wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 In any case, when is the official public release or whatever it is called? Bump . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Bump . IIRC, it's suppose to be at the LA Auto Show this year, which is either Oct/Nov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 K. did a quick google search. Putting this link here for future reference. https://laautoshow.com/manufacturer/subaru/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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